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Is anyone esle "frozen" trying to decide the next step?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by reallife, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. reallife

    reallife Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I had a bunch of sites get crunched by the most recent Panda.

    They're all adult sites, but that shouldn't really matter except that doing link building and research is a little tougher.

    I've narrowed it down to either anchor link diversity or links coming from what could be considered link farms.

    But in the past, when stuff has hit like this, waiting has seen the sites come back, for the most part.

    So I'm "frozen" - having a hard time deciding whether to try to wait it out, or "guess" at which possibility to try to tackle.

    I tried some relatively clean web 2.0s to one site, and some social bookmarking to another site - hasn't had any real impact.

    The sites represent a large portion of my income that's taken a hit, so I'm hesitating, not wanting to make matters worse.

    Anyone else facing this same dilemma - and if so, how did you decide what avenue to take?
     
  2. regmant

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    Yep, my site is dancing like hell, but nothing on page one (i've got about 4 keywords on bottom of page one - the other 450 are either in the top 500 or nowhere).

    Anchor diversity is something I'm improving at the moment, but struggling to find services that allow more than two keywords.
     
  3. reallife

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    Yeah, the keyword thing is tough, I'm doing some with bookmarking.

    One of the things that baffles me, is that my sites with massive backlinking (which have done well for a long time) have been trashed, but many of the ones now in the top ten have as few as 300-400 backlinks. A couple of my sites that weren't touched have a lot fewer backlinks - but a key money site of mine that's still #1 (knock on wood) has a ton of backlinks. I can't find a pattern.

    And even stranger, a couple of my new sites (only months old, new domains) are in the top 20 (one in the top ten) with less than 200 backlinks apiece. I have to believe that things will eventually settle and recover - but the way G has been acting, I'm not confident in even that anymore.
     
  4. LBrown

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    I had a similar thing happen after Panda 2.6. I haven't been effected much by the Panda's since then. What I ended up doing was building a ton of new sites and running some pretty crazy experiments regarding different linking techniques. I also made a TON of web 2.0s to experiment with how web 2.0s rank post-Panda. I've learned more about SEO in the past few months than I had learned in the past year.

    My advice: let your old sites simmer. Keep linking like nothing happened and create some new sites to experiment on. Get someone you trust to look at some of your on-site optimization so that when the next Panda rolls around it might be pleased with any on-site changes that you make.
     
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    Absolutely correct. As most penalties are suppose to last a set amount of time (30/60/90 days), don't go crazy trying to fix them quite yet. Ive wrote on this topic quite a bit and I have done nearly everything to get my site back on track.

    I think we're in time out.
     
  6. dichotom

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    There is a really long thread going about this very subject, you might want to check it out for all the info and experiences people have posted already.
     
  7. reallife

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    Thanks for that. The reason I'm frozen is that, for example, most of the sites ranking 1-5 for an important keyword have 1500-5000 BLD, one has 270,000. I have 2,000,000+ (which wasn't a problem until recently) and I'm afraid to just keep linking more and more :eek:
     
  8. reallife

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    Thanks, I've checked out many of the panda threads, I was looking more to see if there are others who are going through the "frozen with inaction" reaction that I'm having and hadn't seen anything on that subject. Don't mean to reinvent the thread wheel.
     
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