Is a Niche Edit more powerful than a Guest Post?

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And why? :)

P.s. I know there are other factors involved, but for argument's sake, let's say these were on similar sites.
 
It depends on the domain that it is placed on. A guest post is a new article with you link that is placed on a website. A niche edited is your link placed on an existing article on a website. The important thing for both is the power of the domain it is placed upon and the relevance of the article and domain where your link is placed.
 
It depends on the domain that it is placed on. A guest post is a new article with you link that is placed on a website. A niche edited is your link placed on an existing article on a website. The important thing for both is the power of the domain it is placed upon and the relevance of the article and domain where your link is placed.

Thanks. Let's say, for hypothetical reasons, it's the same site. Which wins?
 
Interesting! So why do people GP, instead of solely doing niche edits?

because that would easily trigger an un-natural link penalty, just imagine going through a link profile yourself on Ahrefs!
 
Since they are aged, generally yes, but like everything else in SEO, there are variables you have to consider. Authority of the website is a big one. I use both techniques, but almost always tier my guest post with my own niche edits. This way, you are waking up the authority at the page level (being a new page and all).
 
Since they are aged, generally yes, but like everything else in SEO, there are variables you have to consider. Authority of the website is a big one. I use both techniques, but almost always tier my guest post with my own niche edits. This way, you are waking up the authority at the page level (being a new page and all).

"but almost always tier my guest post with my own niche edits"

Sorry, could you explain this please? :)
 
Since they are aged, generally yes, but like everything else in SEO, there are variables you have to consider. Authority of the website is a big one. I use both techniques, but almost always tier my guest post with my own niche edits. This way, you are waking up the authority at the page level (being a new page and all).

This is like reading a line from inception movie.
I get what you are doing there. :smirk:
 
because that would easily trigger an un-natural link penalty, just imagine going through a link profile yourself on Ahrefs!

I have to disagree here. It's pretty difficult to get an unnatural link penalty with niche edits. I'm not trying to be anecdotal here, but I've been selling niche edits for quite a few years now and I haven't seen an unnatural penalty from niche edits (alone). I have many clients that spend mid four figures and five figures per month and have for multiple years without any penalties. Generally when it does happen, it's due to a combination of other links that are extremely risky. The other big no no is building in mass volume to websites that are new(ish). Otherwise, it's pretty hard to even receive an unnatural link warning these days. I rarely ever see them.
 
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"but almost always tier my guest post with my own niche edits"

Sorry, could you explain this please? :)

Look at it this way. When you order a guest post, many times is 3-4+ levels deep on a website. On an island (as I like to call it), so there is zero authority being pushed to it from the high level pages. Therefore, a lot of times they have little to no value. If you tier them (build links to the guest post itself), it pushes authority and relevancy to that page, hence, giving it more value or authority as a tier 1 link.

This is like reading a line from inception movie.
I get what you are doing there. :smirk:

Haha...it really wasn't an attempt at self promotion.
 
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I have to disagree here. It's pretty difficult to get an unnatural link penalty with niche edits. I'm not trying to be anecdotal here, but I've been selling niche edits for quite a few years now and I haven't seen an unnatural penalty from niche edits (alone). I have many clients that spend mid four figures and five figures per month and have for multiple years without any penalties. Generally when it does happen, it's due to a combination of other links that are extremely risky. The other big no no is building in mass volume yo websites that are new(ish). Otherwise, it's pretty hard to even receive an unnatural link warning these days. I rarely ever see them.

Actually not trying to challenge you (you are my hero), but my point is having a link profile with only niche edits can trigger unnatural link warning (there are very high chances). Also, a site with age/authority and links built over time can benefit a lot with niche edits.
 
Look at it this way. When you order a guest post, many times is 3-4+ levels deep on a website. Many times it's on an island, so there is zero authority being pushed to it from the high level pages. Therefore, a lot of times they have little to no value. If you tier them (build links to the guest post itself), it pushes authority and relevancy to that page, hence, giving it more value or authority as a tier 1 link.



Haha...it really wasn't an attempt at self promotion.

Interesting!!! I get all of the first bit. But how do you build links to the GP itself?
 
Look at it this way. When you order a guest post, many times is 3-4+ levels deep on a website. Many times it's on an island, so there is zero authority being pushed to it from the high level pages. Therefore, a lot of times they have little to no value. If you tier them (build links to the guest post itself), it pushes authority and relevancy to that page, hence, giving it more value or authority as a tier 1 link.



Haha...it really wasn't an attempt at self promotion.

No, my point is not self-promotion. But your point below is awesome.

If you tier them (build links to the guest post itself), it pushes authority and relevancy to that page, hence, giving it more value or authority as a tier 1 link.
 
The most important variable on this equation is the Domain Authority then other factors...
 
technically niche edits are stronger than new guest post
 
Actually not trying to challenge you (you are my hero), but my point is having a link profile with only niche edits can trigger unnatural link warning (there are very high chances). Also, a site with age/authority and links built over time can benefit a lot with niche edits.

Nah bro, I have no issue with being challenged or a healthy debate. All good:)

Yes, totally agree. It's hard to address every variable or situation that can arise. I simply thought that was understood, from a "best practices standpoint", not to build your entire link profile with niche edits. That would certainly be risky...lol. And also agree. In a perfect world, niche edits work best on aged websites (1+ years). Get in the good graces of Google (out of the Sandbox) and then start to hammer the website with niche edits. Those are the sites I see do the best.

Interesting!!! I get all of the first bit. But how do you build links to the GP itself?

Build links to the guest post itself. Same concept of parasite SEO.
 
Thanks. Let's say, for hypothetical reasons, it's the same site. Which wins?

It would give you a similar boost in your ranking. Niche edits may have backlinks going directly to the page. Where guest posts are new and have no direct links to the page. So the nichev edit could potentially be more powerful but there are a lot of factors that would affect the power of the page like outbound links, anchors of incoming links and the types of incoming links.
 
Interesting! So why do people GP, instead of solely doing niche edits?

Guest posting gets you your own 500, 700, 1000 word article, on a new post with your OBL in there and 1 or 2 referencing links to authority pages.

Niche edits, the article and pages are old, indexed and ranking already because they're established.

Actually not trying to challenge you (you are my hero), but my point is having a link profile with only niche edits can trigger unnatural link warning (there are very high chances). Also, a site with age/authority and links built over time can benefit a lot with niche edits.

Anyone just using niche edits ( or any singular type of linking needs their head examined ) as it's not natural. John mentions, quite rightly, that you need to use other links and not just one type.

technically niche edits are stronger than new guest post

A niche edit say on a DR 70 site is cheaper too than getting a guest post on that same site.
 
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