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Is a College Degree worth the Time and Money?

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  1. Georgebg

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    Only for the girls :eek:
     
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    Depends on ones goals. A degree is almost always needed today to get an entry level position. Long gone are the days when a high school education could land you a decent job. I just retired from 40+ years in the transportation industry and all I have is a high school education. The positions I held all require at least a BS/BA degree now.
     
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    Depends on your skillset, your ability to learn dependently and the way you view the working world!
     
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    IMO, any education after high school prepares you for a profession/job. You will be having an active income - you have to work for it at a fixed salary every month. You only stand a chance to live comfortably but with extreme difficulty to become rich. You're at the mercy of your health and the economy. Once you're retrenched or report sick for that day/week, it also means you won't be receiving any income. Like for the video OP shared, that is what happens when you're in the mercy of the economy.

    If you want to be rich, focus on passive income. IM's moolah is considered passive income because it doesn't require much work and everything is in its automation in future (true for my case). And that also means you can report sick and you don't have to worry much as income will still go to your bank account at the end of the month. Provided that your business is established.
     
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    that is pretty f*ckt up.
     
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    I am in a professional job role but if I could go back I would definitely have gone to university.
     
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    lol @ 1:10, some funny people there, they look like they're high on something.

    But cmon people, why are you underestimating the college? Surely not everybody will make it out with a top position job but it's actually their fault for not looking around and moving their lazy ass to look for a job that matches their major. You got to hustle for it, there is no free delivery, the world ain't unlimited, you are competing with many others for that dream job. Common sense, if college was that bad, parents wouldn't encourage their children to attend it. People go to college to acquire knowledge, to have the competence to get that dream job, not for the sake of the name of that facility. You are given the resources needed to make your way to your dream job, you are not spoonfed and not thrown away at streets, it's how you use it.
     
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    Definitely, its totally worth it.
     
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    Right now im sitting here waiting for my class and thinking about the same thing
     
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    The college life gives you social experience. You can't get it anywhere.
     
  14. JimmyWong

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    Move to a college town and work in a bar = social experience.

    If you were proactive you could make good business connections in university though. Future business owners, entrepreneurs and so on. University is really what you make it.
     
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    I dropped out last year due to this thinking... Now I'm back.

    You are almost expected nowadays to get a degree if you want to move up in any company. You may be able to secure an entry level position without one but I doubt (Unless you're exceptional at what you do) that you will move up the ladder very easily.

    Its great that you are in IM, and you may do very well, but wouldn't it also be nice to have a good fallback plan?
    Just my opinion.
     
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    I am a Software Engineer, studied for about 9 years till I got the degree.
    And while I was working this degree opened new doors in the company where I am working, so the degree IS important, but it depends entirely on what are your aspirations in life.

    To be honest, right now, I want to create a passive income enough to quit my ""#%&"% job and start dedicating full time in Internet Marketing. Did I waste 9 years of my life studying? not at all, but right now I just want to be financially free and get out of the rat race. Companies will have you like a mouse fighting for the daily cheese, and that just tired me.
     
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    If life were about making money only, sure going to college is a waste of money as you don't need that to make money.

    But life is not all about money. So think about that.
     
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    I mean a degree is absolutely necessary if you want to be a :

    Doctor
    Architect
    Engineer
    Other stuff that you can't really teach yourself about and that you are required by law to have a degree

    But why should I need a degree in Business Administration to work in a SEO Company, I was browsing the Jobs section on Linkedin and all the SEO Companies want the following:

    [Position Requirements
    ? Bachelor's Degree or equivalent experience in Marketing and/or Business



    I browsed like 20 different Ads they ALL want a Bachelor's Degree not only for a SEO manager or Strategist which is a higher end job, but also for a start level SEO worker who will just build links and exchange some e-mails

    I don't see how a college degree for Business & Administration studies would help you to build better links?
     
  19. JimmyWong

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    Georgebg, because they can.

    A degree can be interpreted as indicative of strength of character such as persistence, commitment and so on.
     
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    I'm reading Mr Nice at the moment. It's about Howard marks, a renowned drug trafficker in the 60/70s.

    Very interesting and hits on this exact subject. The guy was obviously very clever, but had some luck when he got put up for a scholarship to Oxford university and just got in.

    Once there he gathered so much knowledge and made connections that paved the way for his smuggling career.

    Just reading the book has changed my mind drastically about UNI and how your schooling really can affect your career in a big way.

    Not a necessity and yes you can better yourself in many ways, but if you have the chance of UNI, take it.

    George you clearly know what you are doing in business, but going to UNI you would learn all the studied and proven ways of doing all aspects of business - coupled with your working knowledge it might make you a much more powerful businessman!