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IP Adress change for new Stealth Paypal Account

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  1. soccer88

    soccer88 Newbie

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    Hello all!

    So I read a lot on here about safely open multiple PP accounts without getting limited after the first transaction.

    Also read the Paypal guide that is downloadable here on the forum and I want to thank the community for all the info.

    About changin the IP adress I still have my doubts. When I deactivate my router and turn it on again, I have a new IP.

    Will this be enough and dont I need a VPN if I follow all other steps well, like cleaing the (flash) cookies etcetera.

    It´s not for illegal use, so at the end I am not affraid of not using a VPN. So when I turned off and on my router and I have a new IP adress, will this be enough and cant they link this IP to my other account? If so, I gues this is a better way then using a VPN, since those mostly used IP´s are blacklisted for sure.



    Thanks for your help in advance!
     
  2. Furious George

    Furious George Supreme Member Premium Member

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    Don't use a vpn.

    Resetting your modem to get a new ip is fine.

    Keep a log of the ip's your modem shoots out so you don't repeat them. Using the same ip on different paypals will link them, and when one goes down, all the linked ones go down with it.

    You'll need to clear cookies and LSO files (flash cookies) as well as get a new name, address, email address, phone number, (they almost never call) password, bank account, and credit card.
     
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  3. Gogol

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    How about creating a new Virtual Machine for each of your Paypal accounts and using them under private proxies? There's nothing better you can do, i guess..
     
  4. soccer88

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    I just need 1 extra account.

    Few days ago, I opened one, with the way described above.

    Reset the router with a new IP adress, cleared the cookies and opened a new account. Directly after the first payment I get blocked and linked to my old account. I was very happy I was still able to refund the buyer directly although I was limitid, but the account is useless now.

    I am quite sure (and hope) this was because I wasn´t aware yet of deleting the flash cookies also.

    I am about to open a new one, using a new user account in windows AND changing IP and clearing cookies, but I am affraid I will get limited again.

    Thanks you already for the quick reactions so far.
     
  5. soccer88

    soccer88 Newbie

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    I will have to google some hours before I know what you exactly mean and be able to do that ;)
     
  6. Furious George

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    You don't need a virtual machine for a new un linked paypal account. You just need to do all of the steps I outlined above.

    Download an add-on for mozilla called better privacy. It will help you clear your lso files

    Everything has to be different on the new paypal... You don't need a virtual machine. With an adsense account, you would need a virtual machine. Paypal, you don't.
     
  7. soccer88

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    do you think the reason I got limited, was because of the flash cookies?

    all the other info didn´t have any link to my first account. the cc and bankaccount I add are both in my real name, (i dont care for that, not scamming people) but I read everywhere Paypal doesn´t track your real name from that, just the ZIP code.
     
  8. soccer88

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    thanks for your answers all so far and willingness to help. appreciate that.
     
  9. soccer88

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    And George,

    Do you recommend open a new user account in Windows, or just cleaning up your cookies well as well as the addon will do the job?
     
  10. ateep22

    ateep22 Registered Member

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    i read creating new user accounts on your desktop is the right way to go...so you never have to clear your cookies and flash...somebody correct me if this is wrong and/or outdated way of doing it
     
  11. soccer88

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    well, like i said, yesterday I had a new IP by resetting router. Open a new account, and after first transaction I got blocked.. Did clean cookies, did not clean Flash cookies.

    did attach a bankaccount thats on my own name as well (a different one as the original account) as a credit card to verify. According to the guide I downloaded from here that should be possible.

    I have had a stealth account in the past on another computer also with bank and credit card on my own name attached and never have had any problems with it, untill I reached the limit of €2500, I had to send in documents, so I cannot use that anymore, but no problems withdrawing to my bank account until I reached that limit, and was fully verified.

    Im about to open a new account now, that´s why I am searching now for answers.

    I really want to sell a part of my collection, and since Paypal seems the only way to go, I just need an account.
     
  12. Furious George

    Furious George Supreme Member Premium Member

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    Creating a new user account on windows is totally fine. 99% of the time the cookies are not shared. A few years back I noticed chrome would share cookies on all admin accounts. That's when I started clearing cookies every time no matter what. Different versions of different browsers will function differently, and it's so easy to clear LSO and cookies why not?

    get ccleaner (free) and better privacy for mozilla (also free)

    Without a doubt. YES.

    The bank accounts need to be in your real, bona fide information. The credit card could be a vanilla visa gift card. All the card needs to do is pass their AVS, which only uses the street number and zip code from the card. If the card doesn't have a street number, it passes if the zip code is correct. (which can be changed with a vanilla visa)

    Paypal actually doesn't link accounts based on the name... it would shut down too many people. Make sense? It's no big deal to make the paypal account with your name, just everything else has to be different.
     
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  13. soccer88

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    Thanks again, George.

    CCleaner I already use since years now. Will install the plugin also.

    According to the CC and bankaccounts I am adding,they are my own local bank accounts and the CC is also attached to my bank account. So legit sources registered on my new name.

    You really think it doesnt hurt when I register with all my true details? My name is a name that only a few persons in the world have. My adress has changed in the meanwhile. Birthdate ofcourse didn t change yet :p

    I really prefer opening an account in a different name, but adding my ¨official¨ funding and withdraw sources. My other stealth account proved this doesnt have to give any problems, but if you have suggestions or more inside information that this CAN actually hurt, Im happy of you share that with me/us.

    Sorry for my broken Englihs btw..
     
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    Then open the account in a different name. :)

    You have to be careful. Sometimes the bank makes you have the name on the incoming deposit match. If you name is Larry, and you get deposits coming from paypal under the name of George, sometimes the bank doesn't like that.

    Opening an account with alias is perfectly fine and legal. Some people aren't okay with the idea, so that's why I suggested maybe using your name.
     
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  15. soccer88

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    Thank you again.

    Installed the addon and read the instructions quickly. If I am not wrong I just have to install yhe plugin and leave it with the default settings, so it deletes all LSO after closing the browser, am I right?
     
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    Eh.... I would go a step further.

    You'll need to check the box that says something like "add LSO deletion settings to mozilla dialogue" (i don't remember the exact phrase off the top of my head)

    THEN... go into Mozilla and change the settings to delete all LSO upon closing of mozilla. There will be a new box there to check after the install of better privacy.
     
  17. soccer88

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    Done.

    Just bouncing at another problem. When I open another user account, it freezes when I want to switch to that account. Also if I restart the computer, I am not able to do anything on the other user account.

    But that seems more like a windows problem I have to sort out.

    You think with your description Im relative safe, also if I dont use another windows user account? have you got any more advice we have not spoken about yet, before I start?

    I know there is already talked a lot on here about it, but I just see a lot of different opinions, and looking for some kind of confirmation to feel safe, and you seem a reputable member here.
     
  18. Furious George

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    Yes, that's a windows issue.

    Not using another windows user account is fine. But, you have to make sure all cookies are cleared when you switch between accounts. If you're only using the one paypal account, you only have to do it once.

    Trust me, I'm right about this. I know there are a lot of opinions... there's also a lot of misinformation and bad ideas. I've been doing it for years, and I would openly challenge anyone to dispute what I'm saying (in regards to new unlinked paypal accounts)
     
  19. soccer88

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    I´m going to open a new 1 now, and let you if it works out well.

    Is is really better to wait with withdraw a few days to not raise any flags? On my oher stealth account I never had any problems with that.

    Also.. would they make a link if I buy same priducts at same stores with this account as I did with the other accounts?

    I think this is my last question ;)
     
  20. ateep22

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    ive read its better to have the multiple user accounts without clearing flash/cookies bc ebay starts gettings suspicious every time it has to re-load cookies/flash every time you sign in and out of accounts...that is the reason why ppl set up user accounts on their desktop..no? thats what i read..no personal experience though..correct me if I am wrong. pretty much the more normal you look to ebay, the better you are under the radar and out of their sights