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Good evening Ladies and Gentleman of the BHW,

I'll do my best to spare your time by being as quick and concise as possible.

Been copywriting online for 5 years. Born and living in a 2nd world country. Low monthly expenses.

Have been making around $2-$3K a month for 2-3 years. Extreme minimalist. Spending the absolute minimum. Saving 80%+ of the income.

This enabled me to buy my first apartment. So rent expenses are off now. Saving even more monthly.

Which leads me to this: I no longer want to keep money in the bank and keep piling it from my copywriting work income. I'd like to invest it. Exclusively online (not investing in the shit corrupt economy of my country).

So to the point of my thread: would anyone take the time to direct me towards possible options?

I'm a good learner and ready to research and learn, not looking to be spoon-fed.

All I need is an idea, opportunity, advice, suggestion on which direction to go towards from more experienced members already doing this. Ready to do my research afterwards. If the suggestions seem great to me, more than happy to pay for consultation/coaching to learn more.

For beginning, I would be willing to invest $600-$1000 monthly. Would prefer the options that are most passive, as most of my time is already diverted to my Copywriting career. Highly secure investment options is what I'm looking for. Low ROI is perfectly fine. Just looking to diversify as much as possible in order to ensure the most financial stability and security I possibly can.

Any insights? Two cents?

Would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks to everyone replying in advance!
 
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more than happy to pay for consultation/coaching to learn more.
Mentoring/coaching is forbidden here.

Just read around the forum looking for investment ideas then ask about them. Asking for guidance on how to invest is just inviting scammers
 

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ummm, it's that you can invest $1000 per month that make for you more options,

you can search about Ebay DropShpping business, you will find a lot of articles speak about this business model, what you just find some hot selling product's on amazon or walmart or any other eccomerce site , than list this product at your ebay store, after you make th sale just copy past the address & name info of your client and make the order from the source get the product from to send the product directly to your customer and you keep the difference between the both .

Also you can do Adsense Viral Marketing, by creating blog and write some Viral Marketing and launch facebook ads compaign and keep testing until you find the winner articles .

at the begining you have to understad the formula yourself for those business after that you can hire VA to do the job for you !

i hope you got what you looking for !
 

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The country is famous for corruption, hmm philippines or maybe indonesia?
Have you married? Get married, travelling, build business together with your wife, that's the best part for our life (in my opinion) lol

Btw where are you come from?
 

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You can try to implement your copywriting skills for something and expand. What are you interested in, would be great to be answered so we can know what to recommend.
You can try affiliate,cpa with paid traffic, maybe learn stocks it will be long process, but after it shouldn't be hard to make it up to slow ROI's.
 

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Mentoring/coaching is forbidden here.
Didn't know about that, thought it's allowed for everyone also having mentoring offers up on the Marketplace. Thanks for the heads up!

Just read around the forum looking for investment ideas then ask about them. Asking for guidance on how to invest is just inviting scammers
Don't know, I have quite a lot of faith in the BHW crowd. My efficiency on spotting scammers as well.
The country is famous for corruption, hmm philippines or maybe indonesia?
Have you married? Get married, travelling, build business together with your wife, that's the best part for our life (in my opinion) lol

Btw where are you come from?
I really dislike bad mouthing my country as I find it beautiful and glorious, it's just that it's been through a lot and sometimes its hard to find the time to separate the weeds from the crop with constant storms brewing around the field. All I can say is that it's a country in Europe.

Yeah, I'm married, living with my wife, I travel from time to time as well. It's definitely an amazing part of life, on that we agree!

you can search about Ebay DropShpping business

Thanks a lot for the synopsis on how it all works and such an informative post. I'll definitely look into it! The only downside that pops on my mind with this one is that the refunds with physical products would really be a pain. I'll research all about it and see whether this is something I can learn and commit time too! Thanks a lot mate!
 

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You can try to implement your copywriting skills for something and expand. What are you interested in, would be great to be answered so we can know what to recommend.
You can try affiliate,cpa with paid traffic, maybe learn stocks it will be long process, but after it shouldn't be hard to make it up to slow ROI's.
The thing is, I'm quite good with words and in my opinion, excellent with direct communication with clients. The combination of the two is what helped me reach to where I am right now. However, I'm a bit on the "artistic," "chaotic," side. Technical stuff is where I fail miserably. Coding, administration, web design and web development are something I absolutely suck at. Big time. I considered making a website on topics I'm interested for a loong time (Health, Fitness, Fashion, Minimalism, Saving, Finances) but the technical barriers are what prevents me. Stuff like getting a domain, installing WP and basics I have no problems with.

But when it comes to theme customization, design, SEO, Internet Marketing and that technical side of things where it's not only about words but about administration and clicking and technical stuff - I really can't do it. And I've tried many times. Either my website gets hacked, uptime is too slow, I don't know how to do off-site SEO... If it was just writing, oh boy... I can assure everyone: I have NO PROBLEMS writing 3k-5k words of quality content a day. Zero problems with that.
 

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Maybe you should make a course on "Copywriting" since its ur brad money, and sell it online?
 

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Maybe you should make a course on "Copywriting" since its ur brad money, and sell it online?
I could do that but as a straight shooter who hates BS, I literally wouldn't have anything to create the course about.

"Hey, I want to be a professional Copywriter, how do I do it ?"

My course would contain this content:

1. Know your English well. C2 proficiency level. Ensure you posses a rich vocabulary. Expand it through quality books reading and exercise implementing it through writing.
2. Be born with a a talent for expressing yourself in written form.
3. Nurture that talent through work if you have it. Advance the skill through extremely hard work if you don't.

-- End of Course --

I never read a single article on Copywriting, never read any courses, books or viewed seminars created by "pro" copywriters. I find it to be a colossal waste of time.

All I did was hear what my teachers and friends were saying: "You're extremely good at English." "You're very good at writing."

As a 19 yo kid I offered my first Gig on Fiverr. This cute, blonde Australian chick ordered a 500 Words USP Copy for her small-scale Jeans brand. I've written it. She loved it. I loved writing it. Then the next buyer came, then the next, the next... 15,000 projects done later, I still don't have any "special" advice on how to do it.

I just did it.

Not really a course material, I think.

However, thank you for taking the time to suggest and it's a completely valid suggestion. Much appreciated.
 
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What i recommend is, search for more clients, DON'T go for other business (drop shipping - affiliate sites) that you don't have experience of. Find work (clients) more than you can handle. Now what? Hire one or two writer to help and manage your client's work. You got a nice business (no more freelancing) and now invest as much as you want in your business!
 

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What i recommend is, search for more clients, DON'T go for other business (drop shipping - affiliate sites) that you don't have experience of. Find work (clients) more than you can handle. Now what? Hire one or two writer to help and manage your client's work. You got a nice business (no more freelancing) and now invest as much as you want in your business!
You know what? This suggestion hit closest to home.

I sincerely and deeply thank you for making it. It truly opened a whole new way of looking at it right now.

I avoided that train of thought because of... Well, habit. I got used to handling my own clients, ensuring the highest quality standards, personally communicating, building rapport etc. And didn't think about moving from a "Copywriter" to a "Manager/Owner" providing Copywriting services.

But coming to think of it, with my knowledge of Copywriting, the ins and outs of how to build a relationship with Clients and ensure the best outcome - this may very well be the best course of action.

If I went into any other business, despite it being semi or completely passive, it would take me at least a few months to get a hang of the novelty. Dropshipping, affiliate marketing, CPA, website development, they all have a learning curve. Maybe I better stick to what I already know how to do but expand it to a different business model.

Well... Thank you man! I'm quite sure this is what I'll do. A whole train of ideas is already popping inside my mind.

Much appreciated!
 
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You know what? This suggestion hit closest to home.

I sincerely and deeply thank you for making it. It truly opened a whole new way of looking at it right now.

I avoided that train of thought because of... Well, habit. I got used to handling my own clients, ensuring the highest quality standards, personally communicating, building rapport etc. And didn't think about moving from a "Copywriter" to "Manager/Owner" providing Copywriting services.

But coming to think of it, with my knowledge of Copywriting, the ins and outs of how to build a relationship with Clients and ensure the best outcome - this may very well be the best course of action.

If I went into any other business, despite it being semi or completely passive, it would take me at least a few months to get a hang of the novelty. Dropshipping, affiliate marketing, CPA, website development, they all have a learning curve. Maybe I better stick to what I already know how to do but expand it to a different business model.

Well... Thank you man! I'm quite sure this is what I'll do. A whole train of ideas is already popping inside my mind.

Much appreciated!
Well, you're welcome and sorry for any grammar mistakes :p
 

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I was just going to reply exactly what @M4r3k said.
If you are good at something, keep doing it.
You don't have to change what you do, you just have to make it better.
Create your own company. And by company I don't mean hiring hundreds or thousands of employees. Start small. Hire maybe two or three people. Create a brand. Keep advertising your company. Hire more people. Expand. You can also add other languages to your service.
Good luck!
 

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What id do if i were u is watch some courses, get a STRUCTURE for what u think is a good copy writing process, hire some VAs and teach them your process, open a sales thread etc and off you go! ^^
 

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I was just going to reply exactly what @M4r3k said.
If you are good at something, keep doing it.
You don't have to change what you do, you just have to make it better.
Create your own company. And by company I don't mean hiring hundreds or thousands of employees. Start small. Hire maybe two or three people. Create a brand. Keep advertising your company. Hire more people. Expand. You can also add other languages to your service.
Good luck!
What id do if i were u is watch some courses, get a STRUCTURE for what u think is a good copy writing process, hire some VAs and teach them your process, open a sales thread etc and off you go! ^^

Wow, you guys are giving me invaluable advice! Amazing ideas. Loving it!

Thanks a bunch! Much appreciated. I really mean it.

Yes... I'd have no problems creating a template outline/copy structure for the VAs to follow. I believe I'm capable of presenting it very clearily and concisely so they can efficiently write based on it.

So getting VAs to do the writing based on my template guiding them, then selling the Copies to my Clients through various platforms... Later on create a website... Yes...

Damn, THANK YOU GUYS.

My head is literally buzzing wondering why I haven't thought about this course of action sooner instead of always contemplating investment opportunities and OTHER business options for some reason. Well, who cares? You've been tremendously helpful! Hope I can repay you someday.. Or right now. If you need help with anything that's within my skill-set, don't hesitate to let me know!
 

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Starting today is not late, instead, never starting is too late!
Keep us updated :)
 

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Love to hear stories like this.
In my business I do alot of Auditing editing analyzing and Structuring of other peoples businesses.
If you need help with how to go about setting up your business, let me know in a PM

GL on your journey

PS Im in a similar situation and this made my day ^_^
 

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Glad you are finding good opportunities in this thread OP. Sometimes you focus too much on what you are currently doing that you forget to sit back and say why am I doing this. If you can get others to do the work for you then more power to you. If you can get people to pay more for your services then more power to you. If you have a clientele, then you can leverage that and sell work for them indirectly, but I think the best investment is one where it takes a little initial work but after that it's pretty much autopilot. Good luck!
 

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Once you have got the VAs working to your guidelines and templates it could be worth buying junior VIP or market place privileges so you can put an add for your services in the market place as people are always looking for decent copywriters on bhw
 

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Another option with that kind of budget would be investing into private labeling.

You could slowly build a lineup of branded products that you would sell on the main marketplaces such as eBay and Amazon.

Not to mention that with FBA, revenue becomes somewhat passive after you put in the initial work.
 
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