This is in response to Alex Kos's post : http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-networks-not-responding-all.html#post8438162 First I'd like to point out that you are not tech savvy and you might not understand any of this. Your claim that we should not use Amonetize because they bundle a bitcoin miner is ridiculous. Bitcoin stopped being mined by CPU back in 2010. If you had 100,000 quad core (i7 920) CPUs, hashing full time, it would take over 100 days to mine 1btc. Bitcoin is mined by ASICs, not CPU/GPU. Anyway, back to your network InstallMonster.ru / Insterra.com Our installer, when executed, pings back home (via http, lets call the file exe1.php) so we know when an execution is successful. The installer only runs with admin privileges, it wont execute under normal user privs. It runs on both 32bit and 64bit operating systems. This is the first screen user sees : Click on NEXT takes it here : ...click on install starts a download & execute code - which cant be aborted by the user. It queries our webserver for dla1.php which contains a direct download link to installmonster.ru installer (via a 302 redirect). At this point InstallMonster installer is executed (our installer stays stuck like this - it cant be closed, it waits for installmonster.ru installer to finish whatever it is doing). These are the IPs (sorted by IP, last part obfuscated for privacy reasons) that executed your installer : Code: 50.183.54.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:17:07 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 50.27.30.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:59:02 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 50.73.225.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:45:04 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 65.27.153.* - - [23/Nov/2015:12:03:40 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 69.166.87.* - - [23/Nov/2015:12:17:30 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 70.126.119.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:53:36 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 70.197.196.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:13:11 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 72.176.192.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:27:42 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 73.165.127.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:52:19 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 76.113.210.* - - [23/Nov/2015:12:05:49 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 98.112.194.* - - [23/Nov/2015:12:11:16 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 99.33.72.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:34:05 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 107.146.207.* - - [23/Nov/2015:12:18:17 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 108.33.39.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:48:07 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 162.228.93.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:41:45 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 174.22.67.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:21:45 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 174.58.251.* - - [23/Nov/2015:11:27:40 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 198.233.31.* - - [23/Nov/2015:12:09:00 +0100] "GET /download/dla1.php HTTP/1.1" 302 649 "http://www.download.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0" 18 executions, IP addresses that you performed tests from (RU and UA) have been removed from this list. Out of 18 executions only 6 turned into conversions which is VERY LOW. Was it AV that stopped your installer ? Maybe. In our experience this is a clear sign of heavy SHAVING. For comparison, our execution/conversion ratio at Amonetize is 40%($1.70/US - fixed), 70% on VisiBay(Avg. $1, we will soon publish a detailed review don't start sending traffic just yet). On top of heavy shaving your rates are TERRIBLE - 6 conversions (US) = $2.03 ($0.338 per conversion) Conclusion : Stay away! We need more PPI affiliates to use their own installers, networks are using the current browser blocking issues to literally steal our money! There is no better way to check how much a network shaves then by counting executions.
Hey Bro you are doing great job ! HATS OFF !!! Please keep us updated every PPI you try and also recommend the best PPI at the end .. HUNT FOR BEST PPI ..........Counting ........... Can you please review on revenyou against amonetize ?
Hello PayPerInstaller and other Affiliates. We are thanks for your interest in our PPI network. Sorry to hear that based on such a small data you are 100% confident in your negative feedback. Based on 18 executions it is never significant to make any conclusions. Moreover, we haven?t tested combination of your launcher with our installer - we can?t confirm that those two work properly in pair. On the other side - we NEVER shave any executions/installs/earnings, if you have proof better than percentage of executions - please provide them. About your point that you made $0.338 from a single US executions - in can be easily possible, just because you already were working with other PPI networks on your traffic and then went live with our installer. Of course, those users won?t be very profitable for you because other PPI networks already delivered their offers and there is no many offers that we can deliver as well, because no advertiser pays for override installs. And last but not least, comparing to the networks where the user get installed bundle of 15 offers - we do not install more than 7 components, because we value the users and do not want our affiliates to have that many complaints from the user. Of course - you can earn much more in close future, simply by overinstalling, but be clever and think about future
Kos, don't bother, your network has TERRIBLE rates and you shave really bad. You are the worst of the worst. If any reputable member here doubts my results - go ahead and test this shit network, you'll be surprised how bad they are..
We don't shave and will never trust in feedbacks based on 18 executions. We are not the first year on the market and we know how reputation works. I am not telling that we have the highest rates, but we do not overinstall tonnes of offers with bundles of 15 offerscreens, because we value the users. If our network was "shit" as you say - no one would work with us, but there are lots of affiliates who keep working with us for years. If you want - we can meet on Affiliate Summit in Vegas this January and I will provide the detailed explanation to you for all your doubts. P.S.: you are the first one who has such a negative feedback, which is strange, because if our network was "shit" as you say - we would not have affiliates who keep working with us for years. Try to find anyone who shares your "views" and you will fail.
You dont have affiliates, you have donkeys. You shave and your rates are THE WORST ON THE MARKET. You wont find any donkeys here...
Man, your behaviour is not correct, as I said - if you do conclusions based on 18 executions - it shows how "professional" you are. We never pay high for shit traffic and I don't know how to explain it to you better. If you have any reasonable words, not "donkey" ones - please go ahead. Otherwise, I don't see any sense to argue with no sense messages from you.
Sorry for bringing this old thread up, but as this is where I found about insterra, I feel the need to post my experience with them: - I got a x.xxx$ payment from them - you can get a payment whenever you want if you pay the bank-wire fees - They had for my traffic (mainly US and other first tier countries, then all over the world) the best rates across 4-5 known PPI networks I´ve tested - Their manager is almost always available on Skype and get´s back to any questions
