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InstallBay / VisiBay / IMINENT SA Review by PayPerInstaller - 3/10 Rating

Discussion in 'Pay Per Install' started by PayPerInstaller, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. PayPerInstaller

    PayPerInstaller Junior Member

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    INTRODUCTION - HOW OUR INSTALLER WORKS :

    When executed, installer pings back home (via http) so we know when an execution is successful. The installer only runs with admin privileges, It doesnt execute under normal user privs. Runs on both 32bit and 64bit operating systems.



    This is the first screen user sees (example) :
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    Click on NEXT takes it here :
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    ...click on install starts a download & execute code - which cant be aborted by the user. It queries our webserver for dl03.php which contains a direct download link to installbay installer (via a 302 redirect).
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    At this point InsallBay installer is executed (our installer stays stuck like this - it can't be closed, it waits for installbay installer to finish whatever it is doing).


    DATA :

    Total executions : 219
    http://pastebin.com/Kysp4BGr

    Total callbacks / successful executions of Installbay installer : 165
    Installbay installer allows us to specify the URL of our product. What happens is, upon successful execution, their installer immediately connects to our server to download the product.
    Without any doubt, every callback = successful execution of installbay installer.
    http://pastebin.com/k57LiJ5D

    How do we explain the difference between executions and callbacks? Anti Virus + *SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY

    Total conversions : 88 / TOTAL REVENUE : $84.18 (US TRAFFIC, $0.95 per conversion)

    Execution / conversion ratio = 40%
    Callback / conversion ratio = 53%

    *SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY = We found out by coincidence that they cycle installers - every fifth execution loaded airinstaller.com installer! This installer did not pull our product from our servers so every fifth execution did
    not count as a callback! Very unlikely conversions via airinstaller.com got counted.

    ** SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY = We also received 122 MAC callbacks but they got 'lost' ! None were reported as conversions :
    [2:46:23 PM]VISIBAY AM : I have good news and bad news
    [2:46:23 PM]VISIBAY AM : Which ones do you want first?
    .... (bad news)...
    [2:56:11 PM]VISIBAY AM : I have the data for the Mac executions. Our now old Mac installer counted 215 executions and 0 successful installs.


    PAYMENT :
    NET20

    Due date was 20. Nov. They sent the money to a wrong paypal address and couldn't re-issue because of 'approval'. Got the payment on Monday 23. Nov. Guess what, same thing happened to one other BHW member active here. They misspelled his email just like they did mine. If i had to guess, i'd say they had no money on PayPal on Friday... So sleazy..

    CONCLUSION : Shaving + low rates + cycling of third party installers (airinstaller.com) - STAY AWAY

    UPDATE 24. Nov. : Avg. rate for US installs has dropped to $0.65


     
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  2. HenryHavoc

    HenryHavoc Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Thanks for the review. Who do you recommend for PPI?
     
  3. PayPerInstaller

    PayPerInstaller Junior Member

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    I'd like to test couple more networks before giving out recommendations. If anyone has an account with airinstaller, open candy or iron source please PM me.
     
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  4. Markosh

    Markosh Junior Member

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    Hey Bro you are doing great job ! HATS OFF !!! Please keep us updated every PPI you try and also recommend the best PPI at the end .. HUNT FOR BEST PPI ..........Counting ...........

    Can you please review on revenyou against amonetize ?
     
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  5. BlueOrchard

    BlueOrchard Regular Member

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    Hey man, I really appreciate you doing this for us. Keep up the good work!
     
  6. missyseo

    missyseo Newbie

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    Thanks this is really great work.
     
  7. Vladan1989

    Vladan1989 Newbie

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    great info, keep it up. thanks!
     
  8. PayPerInstaller

    PayPerInstaller Junior Member

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    I'm unable to edit first post so here it goes...

    Known Romanian scammer KROGERTEK / PUREBITS.NET is still running his scam network! He is using VISIBAY installer!
    I've made VISIBAY aware of Purebits.net scam a dozen times. They are aware of the shitlist thread :
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/shit-list/796541-scammed-purebits-krogertek.html

    Both PureBits.net and VisiBay are located in Romania. What I forgot to mention in the first post is that VISIBAY installer had a string "version=Purebits" in their callbacks, eg :
    184.20.230.* - - [28/Sep/2015:13:41:28 +0200] "GET /download/player.png HTTP/1.1" 200 3289 "http://s.appfuss.com/setup/start?lcid=1033&publisherid=6183&version=Purebits&compliancy=0&theme=OnePage" "Mozi
    lla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko"

    This was back in September.

    I've asked account managers Ciprian and Mihai several times what their relationship with purebits is and every time was told none. They've lied. No reputable company would do business with a known scammer!
     
  9. masterkid

    masterkid Junior Member

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    Purebits are resellers of InstallBay (Visibay). But InstallBay is reseller of InstallCore - IronSrc.
     
  10. PayPerInstaller

    PayPerInstaller Junior Member

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    VisiBay AMs say they run their own installer. I'm going to contact InstallCore, see how they feel about a known scammer (purebits) reselling their services..