Discussion in 'Instagram' started by Roan Smith, May 30, 2019.
Isn't this limit implented by default in the next jarvee update?
I have to ask for it?
Yes everybody would get it by default.
But if no one asks for it or if they don’t know about the issue they won’t add it in or they might take forever to add it in.
I’ve personally asked for certain functions before and they always added them in but sometimes it took a while.
Thank you for heads up. Appreciated
Rolling 30 Days, not "Monthly"
Roger. But can you specify how you count these 30 rolling days? The day you got blocked and 30 days back? Let's say you got hit on the 4th. Of june, from that date you go 30 days back to the 4th. May and calculate how many follows you've done from the 4th. may to the 4th. Of june?
The block date is your starting point?
You can't confirm anything because you don't work at Instagram. Yes, your account seems to be affected in this way but there are many others who haven't. I have blocks on accounts that haven't followed 6k in a rolling 30 day period.
Same. Logs show at least a few accounts on automation have never hit 6k in any 30 day period, ever. Something seems more arbitrary here, or random. I can't see IG all of a sudden making a simple hard block rule of 6k/30day when they have always used a complicated algorithm to handle such nonsense.
A couple of days ago, I made a statement claiming that I believe these changes are more advanced than only a hard block on a specific number. I share the same oppionion as you. I believe we could be facing a rotating algo.
The automation I'm referencing is PURELY following, not other activities including likes, comments, etc.
I believe that the ~6k # is only following
I know, but taking in consideration, I do not believe IG would go through all this hassle just to do the usual stuff by lowering the amount of permitted API request a client can send an hour or month. This is way easy to spot. Also looking at the patterns, some accounts are blocked way under 6000 follows. A lot of accounts haven't even used automation and have been following under 6000 are still blocked. I just found out 37 of my accounts blocked are under 6000 follows during the last 30 days.
I guess only time will show. Right now the only thing we can do, is to contribute with each and every cent we got every and each of us to find that sweet spot.
Gotcha - great points. I have many fewer accounts automated, so my sample set is definitely not significant. Thanks for the feedback.
I've kept a few rolling with likes, comment likes, etc. Discontinued all follow/unfollow activity (except for one unfollowing as a test) but so far no better insight. Curious to see what a weekend of waiting might bring.
What you're saying is valid, as far as other accounts also being blocked. But I was getting random accounts being blocked at far less than 6,000 BEFORE this new limit was implemented. So I believe the 6k limit is in ADDITION to the blocks that we experienced prior, which is why random accounts are still being blocked that haven't hit 6k yet. Hope that makes sense.
This issue seems to be way more then just a set limit like a simple 6000/30 .
If yall read the publication here, https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~ldekoven/publications/following_their_footsteps.pdf you'll see some folks over at Instagram and the University of California researching on how "Account Automation Services" work and how to intervene and limit folks from using such services.
Two of the ways they intervened was by straight out BLOCKING folks from doing the action and the other was REMOVING the action a day later. They felt REMOVING a day later worked better due to the Folks running the automation not noticing the removal since its not like a block where it alerts the user. They said with the BLOCK since the user is alerted they can then easily figure out what's causing the block and adapt.
The way they would figure out who to block was one by Instagrams detection of red flags and a users Proxy. And the way they would figure out the LIMIT to place on an account was by taking the amount of follows the 99 percentile of Real users on a subnet did. This was if that subnet had a mix of real folks and Botted accounts. IF the Subnet was running all BOTTED accounts they would LIMIT the amount of Follows to the amount the 25th percentile did.
SO from this you can clearly see that Instagram seems to have said F*** the Removing a day later and lets just straight up block everyone who surpasses the LIMIT no matter if they are real or fake. This means there is no set LIMIT number (Like the ridiculous 6000/30 for everyone).
This could mean that everyone of our accounts have a different limit which all depends on different criteria's and one being users subnet as the paper states.
With that said, users still facing blocks is due to their account still being above the limit their account were placed on.
Folks being able to follow again after x amount of time of stopping the task is due to now being below the limit.
I feel like it's more complicated than that. They probably do it based off a total trust score. Higher = higher limit lower=lower.
What portion of this are you saying would be more complicated?
After ig down, I still don't see anything good. It seems that everything will not change and only the best will exist. I have about 1k fresh hq accs (<14 days) but cant start them because follow block, anyone please help me?
If you are still here after many years of ups and downs on IG, It means you are among the best, whether you got a few accounts or a few thousand. The rules and options have been the same for both groups. The targets maybe different. Some do botting on personal level others run great businesses on it.
This is automation and not rocket science. I agree a lot og botters did quit doing business on IG when facebook took over and found other platforms. But if you hung on and are still here, you are the best.
Don't forget that a lot of botters would like you and I to quit by stating "only the best will survive"! . Why you may ask? Cause that'll give them bigger room to operate in. Few botters, less regulations, bigger audience. You can choose to give up or hang in there and wait for the solution to be revealed sooner or later.
I'm in a similar position. I've put so much into this. I think we might just be fucked.
If this is true, this is "good" news for people botting to just gain followers on real accounts. Bad news for people who make spam bots and fake engagement accounts.
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