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In business, speech and appearance are everything

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by 2011nfl, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. 2011nfl

    2011nfl Supreme Member

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    Have you ever met someone and had a conversation with them, and when the conversation started, you didn't really take them seriously, but as the conversation went on, you realized they were actually very intelligent? Some people don't realize that speech and appearance are everything in business. Someone who knows just enough to get by, but dresses well and speaks as if they are an expert will usually get the business before someone who really is an expert, but wears south poles, a do rag, and speaks like a rapper. Where I grew up at (and still live) almost nobody dresses or speaks professional, and the ones that do have to deal with criticism from everyone else. Ofcourse that doesn't stop me because I understand what it takes to succeed in life. And the same thing can be said for online forums such as bhw. I see so many people on here talking hood slang and acting out towards everyone. But when you speak that way here you have to understand that since we can't hear you, this is actually speech and appearance. People are not gonna take you seriously if you speak that way.

    Example 1:
    Yo wat up? I gots dis killa method to make sum cash.

    Example 2:
    Hey everyone, I decided to share a good method that will help you make money.

    Now honestly, which one would you take seriously? Yea, I would probably read example 1's post and laugh my ass off and show all of my friends, but when it comes down to it, I would take example 2 more seriously.

    It's just something to think about. Always remember, "To be successful, you need to look and speak successful"
     
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    Are you sure?

    Thanks for the head up.

    The second sounds too formal.
     
  3. Tsmash

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    Really, too formal? You rather do business with someone who sounds like a hood rat (no offense to hood rats ;))

    NFL is completely correct. I'm almost completely covered in tattoos and generally just wear t-shirts and a backwards Atlanta Braves hat with the bill flipped up and it's hard to get anyone to take me seriously that way. Where as on the other hand, when I actually dress nicely and wear long sleeves, people hang on every word I say. When you actually need something done, throw on some nice slacks, a button up shirt and comb your hair. It's much more likely that you will get investors, business partners, loans, credit lines, and whatever else you need for your business if you look and speak professionally.
     
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    We have alot in common lol, I'm pretty much the same way. Covered in tattoos, all gold teeth in front, and dress hood, and speak with slang (when I'm home). But when I go anywhere, (even to the store) I throw on nice cloths, because you never know when you may meet your next business contact.

    P.S. Even when I dress up, the gold teeth do damage my professional appearance a little bit, but I can usually talk my way out of that one. Gold teeth are actually pretty accepted in Dallas.
     
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  5. Tsmash

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    If you ever really wanted to have something to cover your gold teeth for meetings and such. You can talk to your dentist about a product called "snap on smile". Being from Atlanta I have many friends with gold teeth who have got them for certain situations. They are kind of expensive (about a grand I think) but it's always an option if you ever actually need them!
     
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  6. d4l1t0s

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    Business meeting = A suit and a tie
    Business speech= British Accent ( I don't know why but it sounds more professional in my ears , no offense US English speakers but I do speak US English on daily basis )
    Oh also Smell good , you will probably laugh at this one but you really need to smell good , especially if the meeting is one on one on a desk , you are like 2 meter away from whomever will pay you a big check , so you better smell good in order to smell the green .
    hmmm , to summit it up , I take every business meeting as serious as if my life will depend on it .
    And I am the kind of person who base his thoughts on the 1st impression , so it is either you are in or you are out in the 1st 10 seconds .
    and ohh people a hand shake says a lot about a man .
    Cheers
     
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    I think with the british accent, people just seem to trust them more, so I agree.

    And you are very right on part 2. I remember my father use to tell me "a mans word is his hand shake" (of course that was twenty something years ago, and society has changed alot since then) hmm the good ole days lol :D
     
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    I agree 100%.

    It's called sales. If you present yourself properly and talk the talk you will get the deal.

    Look at interviews. How do you hire someone? :)


    Life is too short for anger!
     
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    Thats right. And a good point that I failed to mention. Every business man is a salesman. You sell yourself :D
     
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    Absolutely all about presentation in most business cases

    But in some instances, if your target market happens to be the "hood rats" and you have a product that appeals to them, then it'll work out in your favor
     
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    Well, thats pretty much all I am around, and I thought that at first too, but then I realized, even hood rats trust a professional over another hood rat. They actually take a professional more serious then the average person, and get excited when you explain the possibilities to them.
     
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    I agree with this to a certain extent, but there is one thing that I think this post is leaving out, critical to any business person's success - knowing how to endear yourself to another, and make yourself non-threatening. For example, take the following two scenarios. In one, a business person professionally dressed, and very confident walks into your business, and says "I would like to help your business grow by 50%." In the second scenario, a 12 year old kid, walks up to you in his school uniform and says, "Hi I'm from the Hartford Young Entrepreneur's Club, we're helping businesses grow by 50%." During which interaction is your guard most up?

    And then how about a Third scenario. It has to do with Authority (another important business skill to master) - a cop in full uniform with a badge walks into a business and says, "Hi I'm from the injured cops Supplementary income org, and as part of a project we are helping businesses grow by 50%."

    The first scenario would convert the LEAST well... in fact, the third scenario has had tested 100% compliance for many business models. So yes, definitely, how you old yourself, and talk about yourself, and talk to others is extremely important - but people will often do more for you because of WHO you are, not WHAT they can get from you...Hope this helps :) - DG
     
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    If you are selling skateboards to 14 yo's, Example 1 may be more effective. It depends on your target audience.
     
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    a 14 year old boy will give you the ''mom told me to never speak to stranger'' speech . :)