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In 8 days,GOOGLE RANK No.3,and i wonder how can do that,

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by tigknives, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. tigknives

    tigknives Registered Member

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    In 8 days,GOOGLE RANK No.3,and i wonder how can do that?any suggest?
    3W.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=replica+handbags&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=
    and the homepage is 3W.replicahandbags1.org
     
  2. criacaosites

    criacaosites Newbie

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    Sorry, i check this page and see the PR is 0, are your sure?
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  3. tigknives

    tigknives Registered Member

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    criacaosites Newbie

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    I check with seoquare (plugin for Firefox) and backlink wacher and see the this BHguy make 718 backlinks in 8 days. Him use much tecniques here.
     
  5. technology notebook

    technology notebook Newbie

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    PR is 0. u mean position in serp number 3 ?
     
  6. tigknives

    tigknives Registered Member

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    I mean position in serp number 3
     
  7. criacaosites

    criacaosites Newbie

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    check the density of page, him use much keywords and your page have 27.97 of density (http://www.keyworddensity.com/) .
     
  8. tigknives

    tigknives Registered Member

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    that mean he will get banned by google?or the position in serp number won't last so long?
     
  9. criacaosites

    criacaosites Newbie

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    i think that sooner of later he's gonna fall. (but the google it's surprise box).
     
  10. aftershock2020

    aftershock2020 Senior Member

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    Yeah, this guy has worked his butt off to get a bunch of seo underway before openning his site and submitting it to the search engines.

    The way to do this is to load a sequence of standard seo options; articles, blog posts, web 2.0, etc. You just have to prepare for it. You won't hardly get rank faster than 3 days, unless it is completely by viral video and audio of a really hot clip.

    Otherwise, you can sit down and plan your goal...for example, you say you want to rank in 5 days, you have to load your content to handle that and still look like you are naturally loading this stuff.

    I stockpile article ideas and content, rewrite them for original posts in relation for my site. When you have 25-30 articles at a time together, just start dropping them into the engines at random over hours instead of days.

    Work it in random hourly postings; 3 articles at 2pm, 1 article at 4:30pm, 6 articles at 5:19pm...etc. Do that throughout the day and max out your efforts. The key is to get as much content in that seems random, as if you are collecting/writing and submitting. Most people do things routinely and systematically so that they unknowingly look robotic to the systems they are submitting to.

    Just work a random system. The time table has to be more natural and less routine. That is the main thing about this part of it.

    However, there is more...

    If you are going to plan to rank within a few days time, you have to backlink the hell out of your site and you are going to need to make that look natural as well. I don't use programs for this. I have a special method/process for doing this through a script I've built. In your case, whatever you use has to look more random/natural. People don't realize that these web 2.0 sites are more on top of things than they think. No, they aren't always monitoring every post but they do monitor their submission data for overbearing, unnatural looking data submissions.

    They do allow for small, random submissions every 1-3 hours but dropping consistant large numbers of articles, in large batches like that throws a red flag. The reason is due to their knowing that no human being can create 20 articles in an hour, every hour. It is the same thing for backlinks.

    Common sense is key here.

    This guy is working hard and smart to put this site up there. You can do the same thing. You just have to use practical thinking and not try to rape the system. That's where people get caught. It isn't worth the effort to load 1000's of links to a site only to have it shut down. That has always seemed ' insane ' to me...doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    But, to each their own.




     
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  11. kurkapan

    kurkapan Regular Member

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    in this case the domain name is doing 60-70% of the ranking...after all it's very keyword targeted.
     
  12. aftershock2020

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    Yeah, that isn't normally able to be the deal but in this case it is surely in the owner's favor. Everyone should be so lucky as to get one for their niche that does that well on the domain/keyword relation.

     
  13. aftershock2020

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    Nah, those redirects like that will kill your rank due to them being read as doorway pages from google and yahoo both. MSN allows them. Too much garbage has been pushed through, even under the 301 method. It's been spammed to death so now, they don't allow it.

    However, under php, you can do the same thing with the redirect/header function. They allow that for the time being. I think this is a little different case though as to what the poster is looking for.

     
  14. fayans

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    And it is an aged domain registered way back in 1998. :high5: That's a huge boost in SERP.
     
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    dirtbag Senior Member

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    Aged domains bring some big power to the table.
     
  16. kurkapan

    kurkapan Regular Member

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    more like of a 9 day old domain name:

    Domain Name:REPLICAHANDBAGS1.ORG
    Created On:02-Mar-2010 05:00:32 UTC
    Last Updated On:02-Mar-2010 05:15:48 UTC
    Expiration Date:02-Mar-2011 05:00:32 UTC
     
  17. HowardOnline

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    massive link building here:
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.replicahandbags1.org&fr=siteexplorer&fr2=sb-top&xargs=0&pstart=1&b=11&xa=lhwmQvx7zLQRv__bM473XQ--,1268372833
     
  18. tigknives

    tigknives Registered Member

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    his made lots of one way backlink with pr3-pr5
     
  19. torched

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    I've been following these guys, they are in just about every replica market and they use hundreds of hacked sites. Most of their "link juice" comes for 2 pr7 domains and a pr6 domain. Then they do a bunch of commenting and trackbacks. Their ranking is proof that despite repeated claims by google employees and "seo gurus" pagerank DOES matter, at least when it comes to link building AND that you don't need closely related sites to your niche in order to rank, most of their PR links are coming from chinese websites that have nothing to do with replicas.
     
  20. aftershock2020

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    Yeah, the duplicate ' duplicate content ' issue is a dead stick these days. Because of cookie cutter templates and guru pre-built site packages, google and the rest of the search engines don't bother about duplicate content anymore and focus all about link building, promotional methods and proper/legal seo.

    However, don't be fooled into thinking that this means it has nothing to do with ' content '. That is a misconception to overlook it not mattering. It still matters that the content on your site be keyword related.

    The trick is in the backlinking to non-relevant content in this case. The guy is linking to non-related content sites but, doesn't fall in rank because he is promoting pages with the same affiliate style content within his site as a whole, so in google's eyes, it is all still relevant.

    Don't let them trick you into thinking that your linking doesn't have to be at least 50% relevant to hold a decent rank on your own site. There is more to this than meets the eye.