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I'm Seriously Interfering with Fortune 100 Product Launch; How/If to Capitalize?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by tjtigers14, Sep 5, 2014.

  1. tjtigers14

    tjtigers14 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The Situation (Holy Sh*t)

    I run a website that has a product review section. Recently a Fortune 100 company in my general niche released a product into the sub-niche of my product review section. This was its first attempt to enter into the sub-niche that my website is in, and this sub-niche is a product that could disrupt their entire industry. So their launch of this product was a big deal.

    Well when I heard that it was being rolled out, I bought one and reviewed it quickly. It sucked, but I wrote down all the reasons it did and wrote a concise review. I gave it 1.7 stars and enabled rich snippets.

    I start seeing more traffic enteringon that page, and yesterday I look....It's ranking #2 just below the product website. It has the 1.7 stars glowing brilliantly as the only image on the page, drawing the searcher's eyes down to a meta description that says "Just another generic product, wouldn't recommend" among other things

    I'm getting 300 visitors a day to that page from google, which means impressions must be off the charts. This has to be considered a significant impact on their public image and their product success? My site is totally white hat, it's an authority in the niche, and it's well-done, so that makes it even better.


    My Options

    1. Ask them directly for a large amount of money to reassess their product (this is extortion I'm pretty sure)

    2. Put a form on the site that says "Vendors, Want Us to Reassess Your Product?" form just on that page and then when/if they respond just pull a Ripoff Report on them and say that we charge a large fee due to blah blah blah (pretty sure this is also extortion)

    3. Work hard to pivot that traffic to the products that I get the highest conversion rate on. (This is legal but I have been threatened by a company for it before. This time I actually reviewed the product and gave honest opinion with video, so they can't touch me)


    What Do You Think??

    So what do you think BHW? Should I go for it and ask them for money to reassess (risking the wrath of a Fortune 100 company turned on me), or should I just settle for the nice extra semi-targeted traffic and enjoy knowing that I'm messing with a company that I don't like?

    What do you think? Just looking for ideas, I would obviously consult my lawyer before doing anything but I just wanted to get the community opinion.
     
  2. Pilfer7

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    can the site be sold?

    if so contact them or their direct competitor and offer to sell the site

    profit?

    I wouldnt try to charge them to redo it. By time you are that far up in the game they only kickback to trusted people, lol
     
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  3. tjtigers14

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    This site is exploding and it's my main focus moving forward, so not selling it for anything. Well....there would probably be an amount that could convince me.

    And yeah I agree, some random internet marketer is not on their "submit to extortion" list :p
     
  4. MafiaBoss

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    extortion maybe a good idea if you reside in different country XD
     
  5. daserpent

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    Maybe that company will just ask their SEO provider or Rep Mgmt firm to Negative SEO you and get rid of that review page from google. So, you never know how long you are gonna be ranked at #2 honestly.

    I would say, you should put the "re-assess" form and charge a nice fee for it. Whatever you charge, you charge! There is nothing illegal in charging $10k for reviewing a product. You can even give them a proper bill and everything.
     
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    Maybe I'm missing something but what is the point of being honest? Seriously. I promote a bunch of shit products but I review them good cause they make me good money. And tbo... I think people like them just because they're primed to like them when they see my videos. I'd check to see if they have an affiliate program then just rewrite the review = $$$.
     
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    Combine this with extorting money in the first place for a better product review. Big payout upfront and then commission going forward.
     
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    Because being honest builds your credibility. If people view you as an authority and start to trust your opinion, being honest will have them coming back over and over again making you more money in the long term. If you spend time building a rep, do not ruin it.
     
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  9. nhgjob

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    My two cents is to stay legit... if its a crap product then its a crap product and people have the right to know. Besides, other people will also start saying the same thing anyways.

    But yeah, their rep management team will take you down. Better be ready to disavow lots of links. Not sure if that even works.

    And as for reviewing shit products, can't you find products you believe in? Don't you want to wake up each morning feeling good about what you are selling?

    Sorry not to sound preachy or self righteous, but if issues like this are coming up, its time to evaluate what you are doing.
     
  10. BreaknBrix

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    Hmm. I would agree with that if the OP didn't write....

    He already admitted he's willing to sell out otherwise he wouldn't have wrote those options.

    I DO definitely agree that credibility is important. Like on forums I like people to trust me. With my local lead gen sites I need some credibility. But with my Clickbank ventures, I have so many different pen names and niches I really don't care. At the end of the day this is how I see it -

    1) 100% of the stuff I promote comes with a 60 day money back guarantee. And based on that 1 fact alone I give EVERYTHING a good review. Cause if someone is really that pissed off all they need to do is get a refund.

    2) This is a Fortune 100 company right? It kinda begs the question, "how bad can the product really be"? And I'm curious if the OP may have been hyper-critical of the product on purpose cause he was seeing dollar signs as he wrote the review. Like he had the endgame in mind before he even wrote the article.

    And lets face it, big business are experts at extortion, lobbying, politics, pay offs, etc.

    Big Pharma lobbys for the FDA to fast track certain drugs. They lobby for the money that pays the researchers who review these drugs. They pay off the media, critics, everyone. Some critics are paid as much as $250,000 just to write 1 article for a new drug. And what's interesting, 99% of the people who read these articles, even in "credible" publications like Time magazine, have NO IDEA that authors were paid a penny, nevermind healthy 6 figure sums.

    I may be too corrupt for my own good. And I'd never scam someone or outright steal their money. But I WOULD sell out if the price was right 100% of the time. I honestly think most people would. Which is most likely why the US economy is in shambles right now. This nation was built on Standard Oil. Standard Oil was built on corruption. So technically speaking, the entire US was built on corruption. Corruption keeps us alive. It keeps us fighting. It gets us out of bed every morning. Corruption is our real god..... not Jesus (I'm going to hell for that one). :cool:

    -BB
     
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  11. MafiaBoss

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    some smells fishy about this thread hmmm....