I'm selling a car. Is this guy trying to scam me?

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scett

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Hi blackhatters, I have posted an add of my car for sale on gumtree. Today this guy sent me sms about the car and asked me to reply to his email which i did. Then he sent me this:

Thanks for getting back to me, i just wanted to make sure nothing is been left out. I will be buying this for the price you have listed it for. Payment will be sent using PayPal and i will handle the PayPal surcharge as well. I will arrange with a shipping company to have this picked up at your location once i have paid as i am out of town at the moment. Am a marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls is restricted and i can ONLY DEAL VIA PAYPAL,so you can send me your PayPal email account so i can send the money at once and its easy to sign up for one just log on to www.paypal.com, Note: i'll also include the Shipping company's fee to the money am sending you and you will pay them on my behalf, so kindly Get back to me with your PayPal email account so i can proceed with the payment thanks
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So this is a scam right? How does it work and maybe someone has an idea how to give this guy a lesson?
 
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Yes obviously. My guess is he just does a dispute and gets his money back. You see these on CL a lot too though I wonder who would take a PP payment for a car in the first place.
 
Scam... don't even bother replying. I get 10 of those a day and you'll spend more time wasting time than teaching him anything.
 
Definitively a scam. Not long ago, a friend that listed his car for sale received a message similar to yours. Just ignore it and move on.
 
 
Like everyone else mentioned here..It's a scam. I was looking to BUY (not SELL) a motorcycle on eBay many years back..I was the second highest bidder in an auction and received similar emails from the seller...He was trying to scam me the other way around. Pretty poor scam if you ask me..would have to be a major dumbass to fall for it.
 
Very helpful info W130SN, makes you wonder how many people actually do get caught out

W130SN said:
OP, it is an old Paypal/Western Union Scam. Here are some of the many reports:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/trust-safety/2013/9/16/how-to-spot-freight-forward-scams/
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46616
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=59616
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Sending-and-receiving-money/Used-car-scam/td-p/495946
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5...-WATCH-FOR/td-p/631754?profile.language=en-gb
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5...chase-Scam/td-p/682717?profile.language=en-gb
http://blog.gumtree.com/paypal-scam-alert/
http://www.voicerr.com/ads/gumtree-fraud-be-careful/
http://theconversation.com/the-gumt...ernet-scammers-is-harder-than-you-think-11553

Scammers everywhere, be careful out there.
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Ok, thanks guys. Horrible how paypal doesn't give fuck all about this while this has been going on for years...
 
Hawkster said:
Very helpful info W130SN, makes you wonder how many people actually do get caught out
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Unfortunately, quite a few. It is an easy scam to set up and costs nothing to run. The scammers usually operate in teams or the can just scrape the details and send automated messages. They don't even have to live in the country they are operating the scam in.




The worst situation is the one mentioned by Gorsko, I am a reasonably nice guy but when I hear stories like that, I would like to inflict serious pain on those people.
 
scett said:
So this is a scam right? How does it work and maybe someone has an idea how to give this guy a lesson?
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The basic scam is they pay you with a stolen credit card, check, cashier's check or money order. Yes, cashier's check. They either overpay you so you can connect with their "shipping company" and arrange delivery, or, as a variation, claim that since they are out of the country they only have certain denominations of traveler's check and want you to wire them the difference, minus a few hundred for yourself for the trouble. Once you receive the funds, you take the "extra" and pay for shipping. That shipping amount you will never see again and that's where they make their money, or more if they actually send someone to pick up your item or car in your case. Of course, PayPal will discover that the credit card is stolen long after this all takes place and take the whole amount out of your account.

Can you get back at them? Sometimes you can screw with them. I don't know if I can post a link so PM me for a great website where you can mess with their heads a bit. Kind of fun too.
 
ScoopMaster said:
Can you get back at them? Sometimes you can screw with them. I don't know if I can post a link so PM me for a great website where you can mess with their heads a bit. Kind of fun too.
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wouldnt we all like to get back at them see this scam all to often now in my emails think it has replaced the "nigerian lottery" drop a pm with that website if you like
 
This is what you do. Make a stealth PP and tell him to send it there. As SOON as you get that money send that bad boy to your account or another stealth account and then send it to your main.

This will secure your money.

I would still recommend doing a cash deal
 
Just give him the paypal of some US or UK government donation account for some random cause and tell him to send the money to that PP adress. That should be a laugh :)
 
When I used to buy/sell cars I often got sms/email in this type, best thing you can do is ignore or just report it.
I live in Australia, I got some guy wanting to buy a old s**ty car and gave me a story how he works on oil rigs and his currier will come and drive it to him in x location that is 2500km from my location CMON... how dumb you have to be...
 
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