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I'm quitting all carbs including bread and rice and pasta noodles

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  1. sonicpunk32

    sonicpunk32 Regular Member

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    I have reached the next evolutionary stage in my journey to great health. If you remember, in my last thread I was all excited to have found alternatives to donuts and with bagels and fat. Well, during last week's thanksgiving feast, it dawned on me after eating some rice that I not only have to quit sugar, I have to quit all carbs. Now by sugar, I'm talking about sucrose and fructose. And by all the other carbs, I'm talking about the grains and starches that turn into glucose.


    For the past year and a half, I've been reading things about how people who went on Low Carb High Fat diets experienced such great feelings in their bodies because their bodies' inflmmation problems were going away. Well, I never thought I had any inflammation problems in me. I mean, I knew carbs in general were bad, but never that bad for me. Until last week. A month or so ago, when I was feasting on excess pieces of bread, I started noticing that my body would sometimes develop some small spots of swelling on my hands within hours of eating the excess bread. So I thought okay, I should cut back on the bread. But last week, when I ate 3 bowls of rice, the same thing happened to me. This feeling of my heart rate rising, the pressure in my arms and chest increasing. Same feeling I'd get after eating a donut or a glass of orange juice.


    I then went a couple days without eating any sugars, grains, or starches. Let me tell you, by around the second day I felt my body releasing itself. I felt a weight being lifted off my internal organs. I then felt this strange general body sensation that's like as if I was hit by a truck a week ago and I'm recovering nicely in the hospital. Especially in my lower left foot, a soreness there (I walk 30 minutes a day). But this was a good feeling, a feeling of healing.


    It's also been two weeks since I've eaten bread, and I've noticed that my nose doesn't run anymore. Each time I'd eat more than 80g worth of carbs from bread a day, my nose would start to run. Not run with deep green snot that people with the flu would have, but a clear water type of thing. That's my body trying to get rid of the toxins in the bread and dealing with the glucose overload. The more bread I'd eat, the more my nose would run. I noticed this. Now remember, in my previous threads I've mentioned that I have not had the flu since 2006 because I stopped drinking sugary (soda, SunnyD) drinks and started drinking water and I've never had a flu shot. And the entire year of 2013 where I didn't eat any bread at all and felt so damn good because of it. I still want to know why I lost my taste for tea in 2012. I used to drink a cup of tea every damn morning with 4 teaspoons of sugar in it, then suddenly I took a couple weeks off and I lost my taste for it.


    So now, it's time for the next evolution in my health. I'm finally going truly low carb and high fat. Bread? forget it. Potatoes? no. Rice? no. Rice has been a staple in my family for, well, forever. We'd always eat it for virtually every dinner. When I first found out about low carb diets over a year ago I thought, "sugar, I get, but potatoes, rice and pasta? Nooooo, they have no fructose in them, it's fine, come on now." I was in denial. I rationalized it. It was hard giving up fruit as a health food, but I did it a couple months ago (and saw incredible improvements in my blood pressure too). I was eating so many grapes and oranges every week (no bread though!) and was just clueless as to why my blood pressure was still high. And now I have to come to terms with it and give up starches too.


    Now, I'm not a saint. I won't TOTALLY ban these things from my diet forever. But I'll have them in moderation. Perhaps one day I'll have two chocolate chip muffins, then no carbs at all for the next two days. Then after that, eat something like a couple slices of pizza and then no carbs for the next couple days or so. A banana or orange every other day. Stuff like that. But I am no longer making these things a staple in my diet. My staples will now just be meat, non-starchy vegetables, cheese, nuts, and other fatty things I can't think of at the top of my head. No grains, no starches, no sugar, no caffeine, no alcohol, no smoking, no drugs.


    I already know I can replace pizza with a mixture of beans or tiny broccoli, pasta sauce, lots of cheese, and seasoned ground beef (and it tastes better than most pizzas I've eaten in the past. Think Hamburger Helper without the pasta.) I know there's a lot of things I can replace. This is the diet I believe in now. If I was to have a heart attack tomorrow and the doctor told me to eat extremely healthy, this is the diet I'd choose. Yes, I'd put my life on the line for this diet.
     
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    Can confirm totally works. Not only did it make me lean, i have more energy and generally feel so much better. I don't crave bread or Pizza or Sugar at all. Why would i ? when i can have all that bacon :D
     
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    There's no doubt that carbs, especially processed carbs are a hidden killer these days. I myself have been on the paleo diet which is pretty much the diet you describe for over a year and I feel fantastic. The biggest problem I had though was loosing too much weight, as I work out 5 days a week so it was difficult to get enough calories to maintain a healthy weight. Sweet potatoes are a great carb source and I still eat brown rice to combat that.

    100% agree on inflammation going away, before I started this diet I had pretty moderate acne which cleared up a month after being on the diet so for me that was enough to continue.

    Anyway good luck on your journey man I'm sure you will reap the benefits.
     
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  4. sikandar

    sikandar Senior Member

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    If you suddenly stop carbs your body will react to it as carbs are the major source of energy. It is better to go for a balanced diet. Fats and carbs are essential to body too.
     
  5. blackwar85

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    Cmon guys you have to do better research, carbs are not bad, fats are not bad. Everything is fine in moderation. Even sugar, our body converts any carbohydrate into glucose. The carbs are meant to be the main source of energy for body. If you are decreasing carbs then fat and protein will obviously rise to keep up the calorie count. Unless you donĀ“t practice extreme starving diet. If you up the fats then you must make sure that you do not exceed basic guidelines in saturated fats and cholesterol. If you up the protein, guess what, after certain amount which is approx. 1 g per your body weight in kilogram for untrained people, extra protein is converted to CARBS. To be honest with you, every real world expert who is not just another diet guru will accept that carbs are necessary and should make up the most of our food table. Healthy eating is about moderation not short term diets.

    If you feel better when eating less carbs, then by all means go for it. It is most likely placebo from your own thoughts.
     
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  6. hatemachine

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    lol @ weaklings ITT

    9-11% bodyfat checking in and taking 400-500g carbs in per day

    move your ass further from your chair and make use of those carbs
     
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  7. wiwiseo

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    Carb are completly unnecessary, your body can make it when needed and it actually works much better on ketosis...
    In LCHF you replace carbs by fat, unlimited fat, good satured fat and cholesterol included (yes satured fat IS GOOD for you if your level of insulin in your blood is low) I let you find a lot of study about...
    I am in LCHF since a year, I lost tons of extra weight, I am more energic, eat as much I want, when I want, and my health improved a lot (did blood test before and after 6 month on LCHF: much better cholesterol profile and less suger in the blood)
    The human body is not made to eat carbs the whole year round and all modern disease (obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, cancer and even azheimer) are caused by the surconsommation of sugar and carbs in general (as they are transformed into glucose in your body)
    The worst of all is frutose!
     
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    Did this for a while after vegas and it makes you feel much better and less bloated.

    Besides, the best thing about this is more chicken! Leave out the chips (or fries as you say) and put another breast of chicken on there, woo!

    Or any other meat, although red meat isn't the best way to go for losing weight! Not to say carbs are bad, It's just about using that energy.
     
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    Eat less + move more = healthy. I grow all my own veggies so my diet is fairly healthy, but I really don't pay attention to anything besides moderation. Unless ya have a specific health problem like diabetes or something, I say eat whatever you want. Just know when to stop.
     
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    Giving up all those sugary fizzy "drinks" is definitely the easiest thing to do to cut out a major source of bad kinds of carbs.

    You may as well be drinking liquidized sugar.
     
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  11. blackwar85

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    What you mean by carbs are unnecessary, the are meant to be the MAIN energy source of body. Unlimited fat, good saturated fat, cholesterol? What a joke. Fat is not good in high amounts, especially when you exceed constantly the recommended guidelines on saturated fats and cholesterol. I understand that this forum is no place to argue over this thins, but tell me how human body is not meant to eat carbs when he transforms every calorie meant for energy to glucose which is carb. No more posting in this thread for me.

    hatemachine Do you belong into groups of the typical skinny guy proud of his sixpack at 9-11% bodyfat when weighing in close to females, 140 -150 pounds. Am I right?
     
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  12. wiwiseo

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    Human body turns carbs calorie into glucose, yes! Fat isn't turn into glucose but ketone bodies!
    Your body can work only on ketones body (and work actually much better, google it and you will find plenty of informations)
    If you eat fat and carbs at the same time, your body will use carb first, it doesnt mean that your body prefer carb, it's actually mean the opposite, your body want to eliminate it fast, like ethanol, if you drink alcohol and eat at the same (whatever carbs or fat) your body will first use the ethanol as primary source of energy, doesn't mean your body prefer to work on ethanol...
     
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  13. hatemachine

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    Based on your question I already know that you're not a lifter, so why even ask? It's relative and depends entirely on the person. We have to take into account the height, the muscle insertions, fat storage, bone size and much more. You are implying that 9-11% bodyfat with 140-150 pounds is comparable to the body of a female, without even knowing any other stats. How can you even do a comparison based solely on the weight without knowing the other variables? It doesn't work like that. I could be 5'1 for all you know and then 150 pounds would look big on me.

    Example:

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    YouTube Fitness guy hovering around ~135 lbs at the height of 5'4. Would you say that he resembles a female? Obviously, as a non lifter you don't know the only real thing that matters: genetics

    Your genetic makeup determines everything, you could be 200 lbs and still look like shit. Weight does not matter, all that matters is how you look.

    A 5'2 woman weighing 140 - 150 pounds is kinda fat
    a 5'8 woman weighing 140 - 150 pounds may be fat, or may be not. Depends on the variables listed above.

    I've seen Latina women carry 140 pounds and still look awesome. I've seen white women carry 140 pounds and resemble shrek, genetics.

    To answer your question: Not proud of something I have no control over. I hover around 160 lbs usually, depending on my diet, but I would fit into your typical skinny guy group.
     
  14. Adrian79

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    Dude please go read about health and dieting from people who know what they are talking about instead of coming up with these random ideas. Google Lyle McDonald and start reading.

    You have these completely scattered thoughts about health and fitness and your idea is not well thought out. What happens in a week or 2 or 5 when you're not seeing any results?

    It's no different than doing SEO on a website. You could just start making random links and hope for the best but if you want the best results you'll take some time and MAKE A PLAN with a STEP BY STEP guide to follow.
     
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    I've been doing keto for the last month or so. Not only did I lose 10 pounds but I have way more energy and don't get drowsy in the afternoon. The only carbs I still consume are from vegetables. No bread, no pasta, no sugar.

    Btw, low carb tortillas make nice mini pizzas.
     
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    Be prepared to be nervous for some days when the effect start, and you will probably start to feel a lack of will, at least that is what that kind of diets did to me and some folks i know.

    i found other solution that worked for me as its all about intake and burning calories. If you take more than you burn its bad and you are getting fat...

    just find your balance there, get some good workouts and u can do wonders without going to low carbo diets. ! advice i got from few Pro body builders that i know (IFBB Pros) is that you don't need low carbo diets unless you wanna go to competitions and reduce body fat to less than 2-5%
     
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    Just to add as well:

    ALCOHOL is one of the worst culprits. Google dem cals.
     
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    A few years ago, while I was training people I would have taken a few hours replying to this thread.

    The only comment I am going to do is that making these type of claims out to the public because you have tried something for a few months and has "worked" (notice the "" please) is an absolutely fucking bad idea. You do not only lack the research/tests/data required to say so but you are also encouraging others to take your path.

    I am just going to politely ask you to stop spreading your propaganda, unless you can present scientific proof of your claims. You can do a lot more damage than you think.

    For all of you deciding to follow his advice, please don't. Speak to a nutritionist, get in touch with some sport scientists and discuss your goals/aims and your intended approaches. Get analyzed and make sure you do whats right FOR YOU and not what you've read in a forum that works for others.

    You only have a body, excluding certain nutrients from your body could have "positive" effects on the short term, but it could also be devastating on the long run if you don't know what you are doing.
     
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    Prepare for puking OP. My friend did that back in the day and had to puke 4times a day
     
  20. hatemachine

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