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IM possible without PayPal

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by somedevil, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. somedevil

    somedevil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Ok guys i am so freaked out !
    Paypal just stop all money transfers to my country.
    i don't even know if i am gonna be able to get the money
    i presently have in paypal to my bank account.

    My question to veteran IM'ers is that , is it possible to still make money online , if you take paypal transfers out of the equation ?

    is there a way money can be transferred using cheques or wire transfers ?

    It's so funny, you think you can live a free man's life forever by making money off the internet until suddenly paypal stops functioning and u are faced with the ugly truth of hunting for a 9-5 job :(


    all responses would be so so appreciated !!

    thanks folks
    cheers
     
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  2. badassmamma

    badassmamma Regular Member

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    Lol if you don't have a paypal account its not the end of the world if your internet marketer.

    Lol yeah you get a check and goto your bank and hand it to the teller.

    A bank wire goes to directly into your bank account....
     
  3. somedevil

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    i sound like panicking but its only coz i am :eek:

    i am trying to figure out what methods can i implement now that i cant use paypal now.

    like for instance, AC article marketing is out of the question now coz i got no paypal. which sucks coz i spends last 3 days studying it in and out !

    i guess i am just looking for ways in which other people made money which doesn't require a paypal to transfer the payments.

    thanks for your reply :)
     
  4. rudeprincess

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    Can u start an American (or a Paypal supported country) company from whereever you are located? You should investigate it.

    Can you find a trusted partner from a Paypal supported country? There are still many trustworthy people in the world. Find one.

    There are many companies in the US which will forward mail. Personally, I know people who have ebay businesses that are from Hawaii/military bases/ Puerto Rico who find it difficult to even do business in the lower 48 US states. They use them. Investigate and find one.

    International banks where you can deposit money in paypal supported funds but withdraw from anywhere in the world? Or an international banks that will convert currencies so you can withdraw in your native country.

    I don't know the answer to your problem, but there are ways around it. Think outside the box and I am sure you will find a solution.

    You apparently have been running a successful business. You have gotten paid up to this point. Don't let paypal end it for you.
     
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  5. raidel21

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    Get an American to open an account, pay him for it.
    Change login info add credit or debit card to it, be happy.
     
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  6. Migisv2

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    Im sure you can live with wires or checks. But paypal for me, I use ALL the time to buy simple tools and stuff I need to run campaigns. Couldnt work with out it
     
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    Which country you are speaking about. I know it hurts business when circumstances arises like this.
     
  8. bryanon

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    The situation where people feel the need to start such threads is extremely worrisome - have we really gotten to the point where one single giant company (furthermore, one with very questionable morals) basically controls the whole industry we're in? Sick ..

    As for your question - yes, there are alternatives. You can open a merchant account to accept CC payments, you can use AlertPay/MoneyBookers/Neteller for some online purchases and you can use cheques/wire transfers for larger transactions. The debatable part, however, is how comfortable will this be (given the fact that many sellers accept only PayPal if you want to pay for their products/services) and how many sales will it cost you (given that fact that many buyers are in love with paypal these days).

    In conclusion - no, being forced to ditch PayPal isn't the end of the world but yes - it will indeed make your life more complicated and most likely cost you a sale or three.
     
  9. somedevil

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    Thanks for the reply's ..

    @rudeprincess thanks for the encouragement :)

    @raidel21, you mean like a PVA ? even if i get someone to open an account for me
    paypal will know where i am transferring the money to ! and as transactions to my country are no go ... :(

    @migisv2, i agree..without paypal it;s abit tough as i pay for hosting, ebooks, softwares thru that !


    knoxgates, paypal stopped incoming payments to india. cuz believe it or not our government suddenly realized that people are earning shitloads thru paypal without reporting that money to the govt (hence making it taxfree). so until proper regulations are setup in place no paypal transactions.

    i spoke to a few close friends who have ins in the financial industry (their facebook albums have pics of them hanging out with obama and shit) who said that its quite possible that this is the end of paypal transaction in the country. which is a pity as india is really going thru economic boom (recession my arse,it's just an excuse to pay less to people)..

    problem for me is that i make all my money writing ! everyone pays me through paypal and now i am forced to find another way to make money. something which can pay me thru wire transfers or cheques in mail.

    so yeah i am gonna start from scratch again ! maybe CPA or e-whoring !!
    i'll have to figure something ..... shit man just when i had this writing thing down ! :)
     
  10. somedevil

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    Bryan, after the shock of loss of money etc bypassed. these were exactly my thoughts. A lot of my future plans for the next 5 years i had based on my IM plans which i have slowly steadily been putting in place. PP was surely central to all this as transactions pass through PP.

    it sure is bound to be difficult. :)

    Paypal is reversing all the incoming money transfers. so if u paid me a week back today you will get a credit back to your account. essentially making the service i provided free for you.

    So a few of my not so nice clients refuse to respond to my mails requesting alternate payment method or they refuse to accept that they received money back from paypal.

    sucks or wot :eek:
     
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    It is a temporary issue. and the prob is not with paypal but with our indian government who is restricting money movements.
     
  12. raidel21

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    Freelance has made a statement regarding PPal and the
    fact that they no longer accept India for payment.
    Yeah it suck for those that depend on it.
     
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    I hope its a temporary move by the Govt of India. Would be difficult to transact without paypal!
     
  15. somedevil

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    ha ha ha !! i can;t believe after loosing a grand i am fuckin laughing at the title of this post ! shit man i gotta go see some 'entourage'.

    in other serious note, it's speculated it will take 2 months for this to sort out. inside sources tell me it's permanent. who to believe. 2 months is a hell lot man ! anyone else goin through this ?
     
  16. Knoxgates

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    I m from India Too. You can check updates regarding this over here
    https://www.thepaypalblog.com/

    I think they have implemented algorithm like this for current situation

    Code:
    If (user =="indian" && payment mode=="[COLOR="Lime"]services" || "Goods" ||"Personal"[/COLOR]) {
    reverse the payment
    )else{
    clear the payment
    }
     
  17. oxonbeef

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    All goverments should do the same then pehaps it will force paypal to behave
    like a regular financial institution instead of being the renegade money carousel
    that they are. Paypal are sucking dick hard to get into South africa check google news.
    On one hand we are saying fuck paypal and on the other we are relying on them
    like a baby to a breast. The eaysiest solution is not always the best.
    Stop letting your customers dictate how they will pay you.
    Have all options
    Paypal.
    Moneybookers
    Webmoneyz
    Liberty Reserve.
    Epassport
    Ect, ect.
    Make your offer irisistable, Give them options to pay by a get extra commissions
    on sign ups.
     
  18. speedy5044

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    Im doing IM for the last 2 years and i haven't used paypal during this years.:)
    and here is another surprise :We are not allowed to send money outside our country :D
    But im making some good money doing IM , so if you don't have paypal its not the end of the world .
     
  19. somedevil

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    knoxgates, thanks for the blog link man :)

    oxonbeef,thanks for the kind words man. i am just about to step into the cpa sub forum for the first time *jitters* :)

    speedy5044, thanks for the encouraging words man :)
    These words from everyone are encouraging. trust me paypal is all i've been
    thinking since yest coz in my reality i was gonna write and autoblog and make money
    and now i've been forced to find another way to make money. for the better probably
    as i am sure other avenues pay better than writing for sure :)

    anyone care to share what non paypal IM methods (like cpa or email lists etc) are they employing ?

    thanks again guys :)
    cheers
     
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    @somedevil

    Dude Personal Payments has been stopped thats lil worrisome. But as u said u earn all ur money by "writing", i dont understand whats the problem After referring to paypal blog i can readily infer that you can still get ur customers pour in your payments into your paypal account and then u can get it into your local bank account.

    I am also from India. I just got stucked while withdrawing my money from paypal to my local bank earlier this month. But everthing has eeen sorted out. I am still receiving money from my clients onto my paypal. Although personal payments is a dream for us(Thanks to Govt Regulators), u can probably get a your credit card for hosting,ebooks or other payments.