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I'm not a noob anymore, but I need some advice!! Help please!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Designerdude13, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. Designerdude13

    Designerdude13 Power Member

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    Okay, I have made about $30 with Amazon Associates - can't get paid until January
    I made about $34 with Google Adsense, but they disabled me for clicking my own ads ONE TIME to see if they working...bitches
    Made about $14 with Fiverr - designing logos
    And over the last 3 years made about $1500 designing logos and entering contests.

    Apparently I'm not a newbie anymore, but I am when it comes to clickbank.
    I haven't made a DIME on Clickbank yet, but I do have 406 hops to my links and 42 order impressions but NO SALES.
    Here is my website http://ballerinadiet.org

    I was ranking in the #1 spot on page 1 for my keyword, but now I'm nowhere on Google. I was getting a good amount of traffic, but now I'm not.
    I tried PPC using Bing ads, but I didn't get any clickbank sales either just traffic. But I used a promo code and I don't have any money for PPC
    I have a YouTube video up, but I'm only getting minute traffic from it.

    Please help me to get my first clickbank sale. My seo is very good on my website, but it's not adding up. please help!
     
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    Anyone? Please help.
     
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    I don't know much about CB but this may be it: Your site is about a diet and you're advertising a different diet. It may just be bad luck though.
     
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    I'm no CB expert by any means, but maybe you need to have a better landing page/sales pitch. I found your website to be a little blah. That or it's just the product.
     
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    I would forget about clickbank. Seriously their tracking sucks and it is to easy to steal sales. Start promoting some cpa offers like acai, african mango, etc. Also, where do you think you went wrong with the seo?
     
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    When I was on a tight budget I made some cash by getting youtube traffic or Facebook traffic and CPA offers. I broke even one time with very targeted Facebook PPC Campaigns and sold 20-30 clickbank products , the campaigns took a lot of maintenance though.

    If you are going into SEO, this is a very lucrative and rewarding area, but the more test budget and outsourcing you do, the more you can find the markets that work for you, and get some results from what you invested.

    I hope this helps
    -KHARM
     
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    First you must add an squeeze format on your site with some free report or video or something.

    Select just one product that fits your website and just promote that product, you have as 3 flashing banners, this banners just distract you readers attention.

    Write real articles with real tips on it and then, add a link at the bottom of some of the articles (not all the post) try to pre sell the product to your list, and if they dont buy, add some other offers.
     
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    file an appeal with g00gle and say you accidently clicked your ad, say you're sorry and you'll be careful from now on.
     
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    Help in Clickbank: Rethink which product, Ebook your should sell. Think from the buyer's point of view. May be you are targeting the wrong product.

    Help in SEO: Seems like the website is penalized. It passed copyscape, so it's not a content issue. There can be a lot of factors that might be responsible. Here's a trick. Register a new domain with the keyword within. Then do some some SEO on your new domain (social bookarmarking, blog posts, 20-30 web 2.0 properties). After 2 weeks or so, 301 the Old domain to the new domain. Should help. With some or little more SEO, your new domain should hit the top 20-30 easily. After that, it's upto you.
     
  10. GreyWolf

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    The problem goes way beyond losing the adsense.

    I don't think it's really necessary to rethink the product being promoted, but since it's a 20 minute forced video presentation the visitors need to be prepared and warmed up for it before being sent to the sales page. I think the biggest problem is in how visitors are being prospected.

    I've got some ideas of what you can do, but I have to think about how to explain it. I'll get back here a bit later or tomorrow to give some more thoughts on it.
     
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  12. GreyWolf

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    I'll skip the SEO issue for now and discuss the content and purpose of your website first.

    As someone else mentioned, right now you're pushing one diet plan, while the PPC blocks are displaying competing ads. Sometimes it's OK to do both, but for this niche if you want to push an offer then you really need to target the site specifically to that offer. So for this website you have to decide if you want to promote an offer or just run PPC ads.

    If you want to just go with the PPC ads then all you really need to do is remove the hoplinks and 'click here for more info' anchors from the content on your posts. If the visitors are wanting to find a diet plan they'll have to click on the banner ads. Since the option of clicking on your offer is gone, chances are good that your PPC clicks will go up some.

    The other option is to focus your site more on the offer your promoting. In that case you first need to remove all the PPC ads. Then you have a choice of removing those ad blocks completely, or just showing your own ads in their place.

    Whether you leave the sidebar banner and top banner or not, you also need to add better calls to action in your content. Basically all you're doing now is making some of the keywords in your content clickable. Even when you do have a call to action (click here for more info, visit this page to learn more, etc) you've done nothing to make them stand out. You need to at least increase the font size and even better change the color. You're website shouldn't be passive. Make your content lead the reader and when it's time let them know what they need to do next.

    If you do leave the adblocks where they are, but show your own ads instead then all the visitors clicking on any ads will end up at the sales page your promoting. So, for the same amount of visitors to your site, you should start seeing a larger amount of hops to your offer.

    That would be great!! More hops equals more sales right? It just makes sense, if you double your hops you should double the sales.

    Well in your case you have 400 hops which is a large enough sample and no sales, so doubling it won't help. It would be nice to have 800 hops, but 2 x 0 still equals 0 sales.

    You're problem is you need to increase conversions. For that you need to take another look at the product your promoting. It's using a forced video sales page. The prospects you send need to watch that video for 10 minutes before they're told what the product is. They have to keep watching 5 more minutes before they're told what the bonus products will be. They have to wait a full 18 minutes from when they land on the page before they even have an idea how much this product will cost, and the full 20 minute video has to run before they are ever even given an opportunity to order.

    Someone else mentioned that you might rethink the offer you're promoting. I don't think you necessarily have to give up on the offer, but anyone just clicking a banner ad, or following a 'find out more here' link isn't likely to stick around long enough to see the whole presentation. You need to prepare your visitors a little before sending them to that kind of sales page.

    OK that gives you a little to think about. Hope it helps some.

    It's late here so that's all I have for you now. I'll come back tomorrow and give you some ideas about how you can actually improve your page to prepare your prospects and possibly get a better conversion rate from your hops.
     
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    "OK that gives you a little to think about. Hope it helps some."

    No, that's a lot to think about and I'm grateful that you took the time out of your day to help me. I will implement those ideas into my website ASAP. Thank you so much! Hopefully I will see some changes. Rep given :)
     
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    It always has to be a smart aleck in a thread lol...smh
     
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    Thanks for responding. I don't want to start all over with a new domain and back-linking. I might be penalized because it was a offer on here that was giving out 1000 free scrapebox backlinks and I signed my website up for it. And maybe they were spammy backlinks and my ranking was affected...idk. But I will most definitely keep this in mind.
     
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    OMG IT'S BACK RANKING ON GOOGLE AGAIN!!! Thanks so much guys for the tips and it seems like they worked fast when I pinged the changes earlier today. Thanks again!
     
  17. GreyWolf

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    Yeah, I thought your SEO issue might solve itself. Typically people freak out a little when they see their site drop from the serp, but even an established site can dance around sometimes. Sometimes you just need to give it some time to see what's going on with the SERP.



    As I said before, I think the more important issue is the conversion rate you're getting from the hops. So, here's a few things I think might help.

    First off, the topic of your site is "the diet plan", that's what your targeting for, and that's what visitors are expecting when they get to your site. That's a good thing.

    The bad thing is, you've pretty much just thrown all your content out there with a few links to some related offers and a few ads to related products. There's nothing in your content that gives your visitors any real reason to check out any of those related offers.

    All your "call to action" links lead the visitor to believe they're going to check out "the diet plan". Some of them do take them to your post where you actually give them "the diet plan", and others take them to an offer that has nothing to do with "the diet plan". Both of those things are losing you sales. The links to your actual "the diet plan" post is losing sales because you just gave them what they want, now they don't need to go buy anything. The links to your sales offer is losing conversions because they are expecting to find the "the diet plan" and instead have landed on a sales page for something else. The offer is related, but isn't what they're expecting or looking for.

    So how can you fix that? OK, here's what I suggest.

    First, I would get rid of the sidebar and the top banner. For this type of website you'll do better by actually inserting your ads directly within the content. So give your site a single column theme.

    Image ads are still very effective though, so you'll still want to have a few but the ones you have will go to your offers. The best place for an image ad is in the top left of your content and then have the content wrap around it. The next best place to have an image ad (if you have a long post) is just below the fold that way once they scroll the first ad off the page there is another one still there to catch the visitors attention. If it's not a long article, then skip that ad and just place another ad at the end of the post. If it is a long article then you can have the one in the middle, and another one at the end of the post.

    The first ad is best if it's an image ad, the ones in the middle and the end of the article can be either image ads or 'call to action' links.

    Next, I would remove the posts in which you actually give away "the diet plan" for free and replace that post with a squeeze page (I'll explain more about that in a bit). Then in all the other posts about "the diet plan" just talk about how great it is or whatever and include a 'call to action' link to the new squeeze page. The top left image ad on those posts will also link to that squeeze page.

    Now what you want to have on the squeeze page is an email submit form where you'll collect the visitors first name (so you can personalize you correspondence) and their email address (which is where you'll send "the diet plan" for free).

    Now you have visitors showing up on your site looking for "the diet plan", they find some good posts explaining how good it is AND a way to get "the diet plan" for free by email. Then once they submit their email, it's given to your autoresponder which then sends them the information they requested (which is "the diet plan").

    So how does this website restructure help you make more sales?

    OK, this is the good part. You've streamlined your site now so it's much more targeted for the information it's promoted for. You've already have a few posts promoting "the diet plan" and a way they can get it free. Now you can add a few more posts on the website promoting your other offers.

    Start with the 'ab building' offer you already have set up. Write another post in the same 'this is great for a ballerina' type style, but let them know it's an additional offer for getting a tight tummy (or whatever). Talk about what a great program it is and explain that they can see a great video presentation. In the case of that particular video I would actually even tell them it's a 20 minute video so they know there actually will be an end to it. :) I would also probably include at least a hint at the price, (ie. similar programs sell for $200 and more, this program doesn't even cost a quarter of that).

    Along with the additional posts on your website, you will also add this offer in the email you send with "the diet plan". You can either include a promotion in the actual "the diet plan" email, or you can compose a follow up email which will promote the 'ab builder' offer.


    So now what you have is a website targeted for "the diet plan", anyone landing on your site will find exactly what they expected, and can get "the diet plan" by filling out your request form. On that website you have some additional posts promoting your related offer. Anyone that follows the links in those posts will land on the sales page and find exactly what they are expecting. The visitors the click the link to the sales page are now warmed up prospects and will be much more likely to watch the video and it will be more likely for some percentage of them to convert into sales.

    At the same time you now have a secondary method to present your offers. The people that actually showed enough interest to request "the diet plan" be sent to them, can now be sent follow up emails promoting the 'ab builder' offer as well. Those visitors that submitted their emails are now your prospects. You can send them a series of emails, first "the diet plan", then an immediate or next day followup newsletter promoting the 'ab builder' program. Then you can continue sending a weekly (or monthly) newletter promoting additional related offers. All you need for that is an autoresponder and include a way for them to opt out of future mailings.

    If you restructure your site like that and include the list building squeeze page, then you should expect to start seeing an increase in conversions on your offers.

    One thing to note about all that. Your site is already indexed based on the posts you already have. So you don't want to do a complete makeover. Just eliminate the PPC, which should have no effect on the SEO of your site. Then edit you're existing posts about "the diet plan" just enough to add your image ads and 'call to action' links to you're squeeze page. For the squeeze page you'll just edit the post that currently has the actual diet plan, remove the diet and add your email submit form. Doing it that way will leave all your permalinks the same, and should have little if any effect on your current SERP rankings.

    Also for the same reason, the posts promoting the 'ab builder' program can be made as new posts, and some of your existing posts can be repurposed for the new offer as well. Just remember, if you so repurpose any existing posts, try to do it in such a way as to not remove references to "the diet plan". I hope I explained that well enough, you're goal is not to adversely affect the SERP ranking of those pages.

    Anyway, sorry for such a long post. I just typed it in straight through and don't really feel like proof reading it. So sorry for any errors. :cool:

    Maybe it can give you some good ideas though.
    Hope it helps. Good luck.

    (I changed the name of your diet plan to "the diet plan" through out the post so this page doesn't end up getting indexed for your terms. No need for your target visitors to find this page. lol)
     
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    Thanks so much GreyWolf. I was told that getting an e-mail list would increase conversions for me, but I didn't really know how to go about it. I will work on my call to actions links and the squeeze page. Thanks again! I removed the PPC ads already, and change my theme and etc.
     
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    try to get your website to seem more proffesional, good luck!
     
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    Congrats to Greywolf. Not only did he help itsthepollgirl but he gave us all some food for thought.

    Thanks and +rep given...