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Im looking to get a real PBN built. Matthew Woodward and.. Have your heard of these guys?

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  1. crazyhat

    crazyhat Registered Member

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    I am looking to have a real PBN built. I have come across the people at screwtheninetofive dot com. It is 797 for only 5 sites although their sites seem to have a nice profile. Anyone used these guys? I cant seem to find any input.

    Also have ran into matthew woodwards site as well. Anyone ever used him for a true PBN built?
     
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    797$ for 5 sites? Fuck that lol.
     
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    797 for 5 sites...mega bullshit alert, just run. Do more research, learn more about the PBN's and avoid self-branding "experts" - this is the only way you wont get screwed.
     
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    xenu link sleuth, cloudflare, 1 hosting account..... do it all yourself. 5 sites will cost you 50 dollars if you don't use any domain coupons.
     
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  6. crazyhat

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    Hahah ok scratch that one!

     
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    Yeah man supposedly on his site he has packages with prices

     
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  9. crazyhat

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    Could you please explain more? is this route reliable? I dont have to much hands on experience in this, besides knowing not to go with the "PBN"'s here

     
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    Look in the marketplace. I am sure their is a seller who can set one up for 49 bucks a piece.
     
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    Check Nick Flame PBN building thread. It's gold

    And Antichrist advice here is diamond :D
     
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    Plus you'll get some buyer protection from BHW when you buy from the marketplace. There are some real solid sellers in the PBN area there.

    You can even buy domains from one guy in there and have another do the set up work for you and still come out way better than 797 for 5.
     
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  14. crazyhat

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    Honestly i know all the PBN market place offers are technically public. But if you are talking about good domains and people that do all the work setting them up and then just transfer over the domains, then please post links id appreciate it. And maybe some feedback with your experience

     
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    I know the guy to buy the domains from is accelerator_dd, he is a friend so I'm a little biased there but he is 100% spot on honest and does a top notch job. - http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-backlinks-prices-will-make-you-weep-joy.html

    I used, very recently, Santhej to set up a PBN site to see what he could offer and was pleased with that as well. - http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/seo-other/754101-virtual-assistants-india-low-1-4-hr.html

    Again, though, I'm biased as both guys are friends, accelerator_dd and I are friends in real life and do business together in several different ventures and Santhej and I have done business together and I consider him a friend as well.
     
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    This guy here is selling you the expired domains that are great candidates for your own PBN...$50 each.
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/domains-websites-sale/765578-heres-my-personal-excel-sheet-where-we-stock-domains-ready-go-live.html
    Seems credible, especially if you check out his Q&A thread here:
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/697565-pbn-q-ask-me-anything-about-how-i-build-manage-rank-pbns.html
    Follow that advice and you can build your own PBN.

    His sites, should you buy them, get you most of the way. The rest is really up to you how to leverage them/it.

    I've not checked out others on BHW, but I am aware of a few who are trustworthy, IMHO.
     
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    Private blog networks are a risk. They go boom. There's a ton of hoops you have to jump through in order to ensure a PBN is not vulnerable, and even if you do it right there's still a risk.

    They set up a PBN for you, and they stick you on some free-lifetime shared hosting. Who are your neighbors? Other people with their own PBNs.

    One day you wake up and your network is deindexed, and your money site, and you start trying to piece together exactly what happened. Someone, you or your neighbor, buys links from a public blog network and that network is found by Google. If you cross all your t's and dot all your i's, you're clean ... except your neighbor's house is on fire and you're guilty by association. This is why I don't go for hosting that is labeled as "SEO" hosting, because it's just too easy for Google to know what those IPs are and give extra scrutiny to every blog on the IP.

    With the risks involved, I'd encourage you to build cheaper. Find your own domains and build them yourself. Get an ahrefs.com account, pick a website in your niche that links to others (a forum, or an association website that links to members, etc), ahrefs will show you all the domains that site links to. Check them out in a bulk domain registrant to see if they're available, then run moz/majestic stats on the available ones to see if they're good. Register the domains, and set up your own hosting accounts at regular hosts (not labeled as SEO).
     
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    An just remember the 1st one includes free hosting on their server, so most likely all your sites will have the same IP as I doubt they will spend the extra $ on that. So yeah overall pretty pricey for probably not the greatest domains.
     
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  19. crazyhat

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    Damn guys thank you so much for the responses. So it seems of course building from scratch is the way to go. i have just been hesitant since im getting low on cash and especially time :yell: But not knowing how to make sure its secure makes me hesitate on building and as well as the time since i need it asap. I defintetly know I can research and get info but something i have learned about myself is that I OBSESS over info and research making sure I know its right wich could take me a month to even start :/ Its good but a problem at the same time. I was hoping to find someone that makes very quality PBN's. But it seems the best quality is in your hands since your creating it for your own baby. I just dont have the time to create a "proper" one. Even if i feel im doing it right..it may still be wrong
     
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    For only 5 sites, buy 2 hosting accounts from popular places. One on godaddy shared server, and another on hostgator. Shared hosting, cheapest priced. Get unlimited add-ons for your godaddy (like around 7.95).

    Stick 1 of the sites on cloudflare. These will be hosted on your godaddy account, but Google won't know it. It's free, your sites will mix in with millions of other sites.

    Stick 1 of the sites on incapsula. Host it on your godaddy account, but Google won't know it. It's free up to 10 sites (but you'll only get around 10ish different class-c ip addresses from them anyways). It's also free.

    When you buy the domains, get 2 with godaddy, 2 with namecheap, 1 with dynadot. The DNS of 1 of the godaddy will be used directly, and the other through cloudflare ... of the 2 bought with namecheap, 1 goes with namecheap and 1 goes with incapsula.

    If you do this, in Google's eyes, there are 5 domains, each with different DNS servers (1 with godaddy, 1 with namecheap, 1 with incapsula, 1 with cloudflare, 1 with hostgator).

    Go to fake name generator at fakenamegenerator.com, and as you register your 5 domains, give each of them different details. For this you will need 5 emails. Try different free web services for it, godaddy, hotmail, etc ... you will need to actually receive the emails to confirm that you own the domain with all these registrants so they don't disable the domains.

    Stick them on 5 different wordpress themes, and make sure the 5 sites doesn't link to all the same places (i.e. 1st post on pbn site #1 links to your money site + some government site + non-competing authority site in your niche, 1st post on pbn site #2 links to your money site + some .edu site + another non-competing authority site in your niche (but a different site than 1st pbn site), etc. ... You don't want Google discovering a footprint of your PBN sites all linking to exactly the same sets of sites.

    I don't hit my 1st tier PBN with junk links, or with links that can be traced back to other people's PBN's (i.e. if you buy link packages to build up your PBN, don't buy links from public blog networks, or else if that public network takes a hit, your PBN will be hit by sharing the same link portfolio as the network that's getting hit).

    You don't need to be in a hurry to build a PBN, do it right the first time because it's a major waste if you take shortcuts.
     
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