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I'm just stuck. Is it information overload? Need help.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ShadeDream, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

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    You may think I'm an idiot or something, I have a Jr. Vip status, over 800 posts but this doesn't mean anything, status and posts don't mean anything. I'm completely stuck I seem to have fallen back into my bad habits, I'm sitting in front of my laptop all day, every day and I seem to be doing something yet nothing, I browse BHW, try planning something out, try organizing myself but nothing is happening, I end up going bed at the end of the day thinking what have I done today? This is killing me, I've lost my income, I haven't made any money for a long while now, and I just end up doing nothing. There are so many things to do yet so little time. I'm a college student, 18 years old, and I'm even screwing up with this, like I did last year. I really don?t know what to do, sometimes I?ve had days where I started planning everything out, I told myself I will do this today, that tomorrow and slowly everything will be good but the next day comes and I seem to fuck up again. I think one of the main things screwing me up like this is the fact that I can?t seem to make money. I feel lost and I need some advice. I?ve got some basic SEO knowledge, I can create websites, I?ve got a reseller hosting but I just don?t know what to do with all this stuff anymore. I want to build a stable business but I really don?t know where to start anymore, I was thinking of going offline and trying to be an internet marketing consultant or something along those lines but I?m really screwed. I recently tried doing some incentive CPA, I bought a few .info domains, spent time working on them, on the design and content and they are just sitting there doing nothing. It?s like I?ve plateaued and I no longer know what to do. It's such a shit feeling. :(
     
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  2. kendra

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    Read this from start to finish especially pay attention to BillyGood's posts:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/adsense/131789-follow-me-i-try-reach-my-goal-300-adsense-niche-sites.html

    Don't jump ahead to the end of that thread as the end is full of trolls and time wasters. Start at the beginning and read each and every post. After this, you will have so much information that you will know exactly what you need to do.

    Make sure you get a notepad and a pen - as cheesy as it sounds take loads and loads of notes. Harro always recommends taking notes, BillyGood says take notes (both are pretty much rolling in the cash).

    I was in your position not so long ago. That thread was a major factor in me getting my things straight!
     
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  3. Grizzy

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    Shade you said you've lost your income.. Were you successful making money online before all of this stagnation started to occur?
     
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  4. youngguy

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    @Shade: honestly you need to stop planning and do something to see the result. What works will always works. Write your own journal and sort out what works and fuck out what is crap. After you sort everything out, it's time to gather all information to make some big plans.

    *** Note: domain is cheap enough to test everything out lool.
     
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  5. darkstar69

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    change this or you will never have success.
    when you don´t trust in you then you won´t reach your goals ever.
    i have the same days then you have.
    planning and doing nothing...
    sitting in front of my laptop and starring on the screen...
    but hey...
    i believe in me and sometimes i´m even doing something.
    and you know what?
    it´s enough to make a living from it.
    so start to believe in you and your success and things will turn into good.
    without this mental attitude i think nobody will have success, no matter how much he will work.

    greets, darkstar69
     
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  6. agente808

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    Well, first, I would second Kendra's advice, but also:

    If you are still in college, drop the IM for a bit and focus on finishing up this semester. Study for your finals and pass your classes. You can pick up IM in the summer vacation once you can focus on it.

    Too many responsibilities can make you freeze up. College is important and having a degree is important. IM is also obviously important to you, but in order to get things done, you will need to prioritize.

    Focus on one thing at a time, focus on your classes when you are in school, and focus on IM during your vacations (just leaving maintenance work for when you are in classes)
     
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  7. gbmack

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    IM isn't for everyone.

    I know the feelings of wasting so many hours, and accomplishing so little, when I could have put that time to doing something more productive.

    If I were in your shoes, I'd stop wasting my time with IM and just get out in the real world and have fun. Money doesn't bring happiness. I truly believe that money simply buys you material goods, which in turn increases your status, raises your confidence, and happiness results, but not in the long run.

    Or you could keep on going. Last year for me was terrible. I wasted so much time on BHW and accomplished very, very little. This year, something just clicked, and I am extremely successful.

    What if that "something" hadn't clicked for me? I would still be wasting my time on BHW. For me, that "click" had a 1% chance of happening....

    If I were still unsuccessful to this day, I would quit IM. Being here for a year and still being unsuccessful is not a good sign. I'm not trying to encourage you to quit, but sometimes you'll thank yourself for doing so. IM isn't everything.
     
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  8. Deviance

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    I worked long and hard on a website that I was sure off was going to be a big hit. Wasted hours working on it, coding, designing and doing SEO work. It was a big flop.

    Now I'm making $100,- a day with a method that's so simple anyone could do it (don't PM me), IM sometimes makes little sense.
     
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    @shade - first, it took balls to post what you did. One of the more honest things I've seen on here in awhile. And you're right about labels, post counts, etc.

    Second, it sounds like at least one part of your issue is info overload. Try to focus on one or two things (methods, tools, tactics, wtf ever) and test, apply, refine, and re-test them. If they work, or parts of them work, proceed. If they don't, fuck it move on and find one or two different ones. But develop a core monetization strategy of 1-2 things first and focus on them.

    Third, like deviance said, some aspects of IM make no sense at all in their results sometimes. Some days sites that I think are really solid just suck ass. And some days some of the creme de la crap in my little fiefdom comes through with unexpected income....sometimes for no apparent reason.

    And like youngguy said, stop planning and start doing - don't try to take it all in - there's too much info to do that - but if you really drill into 1-2 methods, exploit them as much as possible, and then build out once you've got that core down.

    good luck

    peace - gregs.
     
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  10. zivmaymon

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    well first of all i was moved by your openess (i dont rwaly know if that word exists) and sharing your concerns and feeling here, well. try e-bay.
     
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    All I think about when I turn on the computer is ..... if I am going to go down, I am going to go down fighting, I am going to raise some hell, I am not going to fail because of inaction, I've wasted too much time up until now so its now or never.

    So i decided to get SHIT DONE and thats what you should do, pick one thing that you think would work, don't go for something overly complex if your expertise level is "beginner" for that particular method.... for instance, don't go with Craigslist if u don't know what a proxy is (that was just an example)​

    Then fire up your browser and ONLY OPEN TABS THAT WILL MAKE YOU PRODUCTIVE, don't spend too much time in this board, only put the time you need to learn/follow the method then go back to work, if you need to take a break, walk away from your computer or go do something else, don't take your break by playing mafia wars or reading some other methods, thats how you waste time like hella crazy! and burn yourself out....

    THE KEY HERE IS that the more choices you put in front of you the more you will drift towards inaction so pick one thing, only one and follow the guide but take action! If you have create a plan ..set yourself a time limit, don't write a 2 hour long plan, start small and then build up.​

    DON'T THINK ABOUT the money you haven't made or could have made, for everything you do there will be opportunity cost whether it is the time you invested in one method that you could have invested in another or the time you spent with one chick instead of another... Shit like that can drive you nuts so:

    LIVE IN THE MOMENT, don't think about the past or the future when ur doing your shit, think about what you have to do now, what you have to accomplish this very minute cause u ain't gonna live forever.​

    K I think I am getting too carried away, so # 1 .... go and get a method BUT SET YOURSELF A TIME LIMIT of 30 mins MAX, don't spend 1 week reading method after method cause you are going to flat-line once again.

    Once you pick a method just START IMPLEMENTING, fuck the details, you can fine tune things as you go along.​




    k.... gotta go back to work.... I really hope you get to overcome this obstacle m8, I really do.
     
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  12. Fireboltgirl

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    You deserve rep for that post! I'll be brief since I'm sure you don't want 1000 word posts to sift through

    1) be specific about your values in relation to IM. This will will help you in decision making. It helped me to decide that I really didn't want to do. Because of the way I was introducted to IM I learn EVERYTHING all at the same time....I had hired someone who insisted we learn how to do everything from traffic, putting up a site, email, copywriting, and content ourselves. This is stupid. His logic was/is that if someone lets you down you can do it yourself....but my experience is that without strategy you forget everything anyway and have to look it up again in a few months. Also we learnt a hundred different ways to make money on the internet but not one way to decide which ones we were suited to or should focus on....so now I figured it out I recommend:

    2) find a great way of making decisions between methods

    3) formulate a strategy and modify as needed.

    Just don't quit ok? You have the opportunity to join the people who others envy.
     
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  13. HoNeYBiRD

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    i'm in a very similar situation as OP, minus i can make money whenever i want :rolleyes:
    i'm also planning a lot of things what i'll do tomorrow, but i don't do shit :)
    it's a lack of motivation in my case, i have money atm, if i'll run out of it, i'll be back in biz again
    i'm thinking about offline ventures as well just like you, but one thing is sure: i don't want to go back to a 9-5 job, it's a big fucking waste of time and if it not kills you, you'll be a pensioner even before you realize it
    btw you're "only" 18yo, so you don't have to hurry anywhere, enjoy your life, be happy and stop lurking the forum all day long, you don't have to understand everything about IM, you can't understand everything, that's what the different pros & freelancers are for, they also must make a living of something :)
    in the other hand you can always try yourself out in some kind of offline work and you'll see if you like it better or not
    gl man
     
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    Not knowing your total situation, I'll offer what works for me.

    I don't work to earn for myself.

    I work to earn for my wife... I work for my sons... I work for my step children... I work to ensure a good retirement for my wife and I...

    If you do not have someone relying on you pick a charity and decide that you want to give them a certain dollar amount on a regular basis and work for them.

    Stop working for yourself and obligate your self to others' needs.

    I promise you that works every time.
     
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  15. clposterboy

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    I suggest you to quit IM for a while.I gone into probation after concentrating all my time on IM,ended up having lost my interest for my degree.I think I am in a big problem.If you are in college,I'd suggest you quit your IM stuff of now and clear all yoru papers.or else your life will be in big problem.Trust me,now I cant seem to have any interest in my studies,all I want to do is IM and I m ending up screwing myself
     
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    @kendra - That's some good advice, though I don't think I will be trying this out, I don't even have an AdSense account. Getting one wouldn't be a problem but funding a project like this might not be easy for me. I don't know though, I have to sort things out in my head. I never did AdSense before but I might give it a go.

    @Grizzy - I made a few bucks here and there but it was never stable.

    @youngguy - Yeah that's right I really do, otherwise I will be stuck forever and giving up is not an option. I like the idea of writing my own journal; I think I'm going to buy a domain and host a blog just for that.

    @darkstar69 - Thanks bro, will do my best.

    @agente808 - Dropping IM until the summer vacations is not an option, it's either IM/My own business or a 8-6 job during the days I'm off (twice a week). After all parents aren't going to pay for everything, I'm 18 not 10 anymore.

    @gbmack - I can't quit, quitting is giving up and I can't do that. I've been dreaming about having my own business since I was a little kid, it's like I've always been talking about having my own business, it's something that I have always wanted to do.

    @gregstereo - Thanks man, I really do appreciate your words and your input into my thread. What you wrote is actually very motivational. I've realized that sometimes things that you already know need to be told to you again by someone else in order for you to actually understand them. I'll probably be rereading over your post a few times. Thanks. Rep+

    @JuicyBlack - You put a smile on my face, seriously. What I tend to do is waste my time, I seem to drift away from my objectives and as you say I need to focus on one thing at a time. There's a lot of truth in what you wrote and this is another post that I'll keep in mind and be rereading over it every now and then. After all we don't live forever. I will not only overcome this obstacle, I will pound right through it. Thanks for the motivation and most importantly for your time. Rep+

    @HoNeYBiRD - Thanks man. Very motivational. Rep+

    @clposterboy - Not an option, it's time to get up and get the shit done.
     
  17. delmages

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    You're not an idiot. I think all of us have fallen into a rut at one time or another. It's easy to succumb to information overload here due to all of the great ideas. However, not all of the material here is going to work for you personally. Sort through the bullshit and find the methods that you could easily implement!

    I agree with kendra in respect to note taking. Copy/pasting posts into word or notepad for later use isn't going to work here. You actually need to get a notebook and a writing utensil to make detailed notes of any method you believe could work well. The simple act of re-writing information has been proven to aide in memory retention. Once you have documented your method and your ideas onto paper, implement them. Don't keep searching for new methods all day, every day! Keep additional notes on how well the method worked and what steps you took personally to put your ideas into action. Did you fail? Did the method work well? Notate all of this. If you failed miserably, don't get hung up on the details. If you put an honest effort into your idea and it did not produce reasonable results, it is time to move on. Begin at square one, documenting a method, adding a personal touch, followed by implementation. Eventually, you will have an entire notebook filled with valuable information!

    One possible hang-up could be created by chaos. If you want to pursue IM as your full-time job, treat it like one! Create a precise plan of how you will spend your working hours. When you work for a private company or business for example, you are expected to be productive the entire time you are scheduled to work. Force yourself to be productive the entire time you set aside for IM as well. As a college student, time management is going to be an especially crucial point for you. You are going to need to plan out your entire day. Differentiate between work, school and fun. If you sleep 8 hours a day, that leaves 16 hours to divide between all other activities in your life. Prioritize and determine what is important to you.

    Another potential problem could be your mindset. If you believe that you are destined to fail, you ultimately will. Change the way you think. Tell yourself daily that you WILL succeed. If you have to do daily affirmations to create a positive mindset, then so be it. People who believe they are great, become successful. You will find common qualities in people who work for themselves. We all have an entrepreneurial spirit. We all believe that we are capable of doing great things. We like to work for ourselves because we do not like to be limited creatively or by a salary/hourly wage.

    The last piece of advise I can give is this; never place all your eggs in one basket. Once you find a method that works well for you and provides a constant stream of income, it is time to diversify. Automate your current method, allowing you to find new methods to tweak and implement.

    Good luck, Shade.
     
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  18. tygrus

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    Shade, I think you are suffering from lack of information as it seems there just isn't anything you want to sink your teeth into. Thats understandable cause lots of methods are changing or becoming obsolete these days.

    I see you mention wanting your own business. Maybe you could take some time away and start putting some effort into another sideline business away from IM. My advice to you would be never to rely solely on IM for your future business cause it can be taken away in a heart beat. Its just too flaky.

    At 18 you should be looking to make some real world moves into something that is going to bear fruit in 10 years.
     
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  19. clposterboy

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    At 18 you need to study and graduate,even high school drop out can return to IM at any point of time.But studying chance you will never get back in your life.
    Tomorow you may regret on your path if you do it so fast and concentrate more on IM.
    Or else you need to be a super affiliate or be like extra ordinary people like Bill gates or Steve Jobs.Or be a drop out learn hacking and be noticed as one of the most hottest Internet security consultant out there.