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IM is the most loneliest depressing work you will ever do. [Rant][Advice]

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by beingink, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. beingink

    beingink Senior Member

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    To all the newbies,

    I have been in IM for 6 years, I have had some very high earnings and then months with nothing. Why did I not succeed like all the other guys in 6 years?

    I never stuck with one thing. I started with Facebook spam, jumping from one thing from another every time I would make some or decent money I would quit that method and then jump to another.

    The results? After 6 years I am in CC debt, stressed out of my mind and most importantly I hate the idea of a job because I have become so accustomed to IM life.

    That is not even the worst thing.. The worst thing for me is that it is the most loneliest work you will ever do and you will start liking it.

    Now my website is starting to gain some traction, building my own PBN's have given me too much insight and I am getting a sale or two every day. It's the most consistent thing for me right now but at what costs, all the things that I am losing trying to pursue my dream.

    • Nobody understands what we do.
    • Your computer is your best friend.
    • No communication with people apart from forums or groups.
    • Continuous self doubt.
    • Forget about actually eating right or working out or talking to a girl because you are continuously stressed out!

    Now I know a lot of IM experts are happy in there own life but you can't just take things at face value, look at how much they have worked.

    For e.x I am broke and in debt which means going out or joining a co working space is out of the question, hate jobs so that's not happening. I literally have no reason to leave the house but to sit at home and wait while Google plays around with my website.

    Maybe some of the experts started in the same boat and they stuck with it to a happy life and I know when I have the grasp of things I will expand the shit out of it to get out of my misery but for those who want to get started, you need to keep some reason to leave the house.

    So if I were to give an advice to newbies it would be, If you have a job currently make some time to learn IM on the side, not quit the job and the world in hopes of making it big. IM dream can fool people very hard take it from me with all gurus and experts you won't even know where you got lost but you will.

    And most importantly stick with one thing till it starts printing money.

    Cheers
    Beingink

    P.S I know it's not the most creative writing work you have ever read, I just wanted to write it out.
     
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  2. RuthSam

    RuthSam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I totally agree with you OP. For me the reason to get out is Martial Arts and the Gym everyday. Also I get a beer with friends in the weekends from time to time but the rets of the time my computers are my best friends :D
     
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  3. bilbo

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    99% of people are in the same boat as you OP. stuff like venting and sharing how it is for you is also a good therapeutic tool not just for you but also the community.

    Most of my work is SEO related and so as soon as that first google algo hit I was pretty much dead in the water.

    The only thing that keeps me sane is having a target in relation to serps ( not money ). Think in this game a lot of people spread themselves too thin and try everything. I agree, stick to something you know about, make money from it, rinse and repeat. maybe then diversify.
     
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  4. davids355

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    Also I am doing the same. Martial arts more, gym I am having to force myself to go to.

    OP I feel your pain as well, I think there are two issues here though:

    1.Getting out - well you need to find things to do that involves other people and get out with them - one thing I will definitely say is that getting away from work and doing something else can be just as productive for your work, as working, because it allows you to rest your brain and I think your subconcious will come up with solutions to work problems without you even realising it. Personally I am not as much sociable so I quite like working alone - just few things like I said keep me sane like martial arts and seeing family, friends etc.

    2.Earning money - well that is just the path you are on and you just need to keep working at it. Also just something I have found personally - you have to be brutally honest when assessing different methods that you are working on - for me there were a lot of things that I loved doing, a lot of things I just kept telling myself would earn money eventually but in reality were just costing me money - even though i loved some of these things I had to drop them and concentrate on some boring projects that were already bringing in money - I think for me that mentality was very important.
     
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    Agreed man I am trying my best to socialize.
     
  6. Speedlearner

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    I was same boat before but since 2 years now i am just working 1 hour a day nothing more and doing whatever got in my head on a day!
     
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    just play pokemon go it will get you out the house in no time.
     
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  8. aftershock9

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    I have just started my own journey a month ago. Whilst I still have a job, I have faced lots of hurdles and frustrations in that month already. I kept on asking myself poor questions - Why aren't these methods making money for me? How is everyone making a success and yet I'm not able to earn x per week. I need to start asking myself better questions and get clear on what I want to do. Its a journey!

    Kudos to you for having the courage to post this.
     
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  9. beingink

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    Yea I should have added this in the post. When you look at experts they didn't get there in a week, it took them years of work. Same can happen to you if you stick with it.
     
  10. Sherbert Hoover

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    You hate the idea of a job because you are so accustomed to IM life. Yet your thread is basically pointing out how the IM life has ruined your happiness and lifestyle and finances.

    I am writing this from my cubicle at my day job. It's 8am. I've been here since 6:30am, by choice. I could easily quit and do my reputation management full time. But I don't, and don't plan on it, at least not until I burn out. Why is that?

    The thought of the "cubicle as a prison" is completely outdated. I have some of the best coworkers I could ever ask for. I interact with all of them on a daily basis. We spend a lot of our day cracking jokes and heaving insults. I love my job and my boss. My flexibility and freedom are high. If I want a day off, I tell my boss and then take one. If I want to work from home, I work from home. I am taking things I've been learning in my spare time and applying them to my real job in a completely different field, and my new approach is revolutionizing how we are doing things.

    While my pay isn't as high as I'd like, I'd rather make $50k a year doing something I enjoy than $80k a year doing something I hate.

    Write a resume. Look for jobs in your area. Get one you enjoy. Don't focus on the pay, but instead on the environment and flexibility. It's not about the paycheck, it's about the networking. If you need assistance polishing your resume, PM me and I will happily assist for free.

    The 9-5 hate is overrated. It's an opportunity to network. Get out of your comfort zone. Make friends with similar interests. Get culturally competent. Your focus on IM will be heightened when you can approach it as an ancillary source of income instead of the only one.
     
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  11. beingink

    beingink Senior Member

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    I totally agree with your points, I worked a job for a year and loved it but that was because of the work I was doing. I have had many offers because of my resume but I just want to focus on this.

    My point was not to belittle jobs but how IM has changed my perspective of it. Those who can should I cannot bear 9-5.

    Also my point was to basically say that initially it will be tough, in the end I also say that don't quit job in pursue of IM. It's something that I prefer.
     
  12. KamBhai

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    Alright, believe it or not, IM guys has a load of less stress than job guys..
    You might see that job has a security and its safe etc but it is much more depressing than IM. ( At least that's what I take after seeing my friends )
    Same schedule for 35 years is killing unless and until you have a have a job which you love to do and also pays well.
    It is true that we have to work indoors but there are ways to get over that too.
    I earn a decent amount from IM, yet I also resell novels for an offline job and I deliver them myself to people in my city only so that I can get fresh air.
    I earn like $8-10 per day doing that but I do this not for money but to get a reason to go out of home.
    I also pray in Mosque, so I have to go out 5 times a day where I can talk to people of our own religion.
    Now IM is so much fun for me because me and my Dad, we are doing IM together right now.
    My Father quit his job which he was doing for 25 years after seeing me in IM, he learned basics of blogging from me in first 1-2 years. Now he has like 16 blogs which he monetizes using adsense.
    Now my family (My parents and me, that's all ) travels a lot which is a reason why we dont get bored either.
    And this kind of freedom only IM can provide I can say, where I can go and walk and run anywhere I want without taking permission from anyone.
     
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    Agreed with all your points

    A Lonly Job
     
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    This isn't just people in IM. Most people's best friend nowadays is their phone or computer. The tweets people my age tweet indicate anything but happiness in their life. I sometimes look at random people's social media accounts in my area and it's a solid reminder I could be way worse than working in isolation a lot. Make good money ---> liquidate ---> travel the world ---> no idea what happens after that. That's my plan with IM.

    Can't win them all tho.
     
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  15. muffslayer

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    I dont now what IM means. But tbh after investing and messing around with SEO and affiliates, I gave up and focused on something more instant and tangible, which was buying/selling and dropshipping. Now both of these are still hard, but to me they feel more real and less abstract than a lot of online money making methods. Even just selling a service of some sort feels more real and instant. This all is probably biased. But try and think of something that doesnt take too long to startup and makes a small amount of income straight away. Then think of a way to upscale it. Rather than working really hard and investing on a arbritrary method, with a hopes of making anything at all. Like I said biased opinion, and still not easy, but feels more tangible.
     
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    I didn't make it past this reply., but this is in fact the best reply.

    I've been you. It sucks, and it takes alot to change the pace

    I won't necessarily agree that you need a 9-5 though. Try taking your work on the road with you. Start with a coffee shop, a Public Library. I don't know where you live, but many places even have Co-workspaces. These are awesome because you can interact with like minded people. yes you may be working on your own projects, but sharing ideas in conversation with people is ideal.

    Yes, you'll have to pay to work outside of your home, but its worth every penny if you're getting human interaction.

    Also, try to take time from each day and dedicate it towards self improvement outside of your work. Like othere have said, the Gym, Martial Arts, a cooking class will all make you feel better about yourself.
     
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    Consistency is key in the IM area and actually in everything else.
    As suggested ahead, your biggest concern is about being alone.
    There are a thousands ways to solve that issue. Have a social hobby (team sport, go to the gym or anything really).

    You can also attend to meeting in IM there are more 200 IM meetings a year where you get to meet people that are like you and you'll learn a lot from them.
    Ungagged LA / Londong being one of them .
     
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    This is pretty much every IMer's story when he starts his IM career. With time try to build your IM methods into a real business, hire people, train them,be their friends and grow your team. Eventually your employees become your best friends and you wont feel lonely anymore.
     
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    I am new to all this but I hope I don't fall into the same path as you do. I have an addictive personality so it is possible...

    Your story is great because it will keep me grounded in reality. Best of luck to you in your journey.
     
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    Problem is that you're doing "methods", and not building your own empire.
    By empire I mean your own lists, products, services, followers.
    When you do affiliates / CPA, you are building someone else's dreams.
    Take your misery and anger, turn it into immediate action, plan & purpose