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I'm going out of my mind!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by coreygeer, Dec 31, 2007.

  1. coreygeer

    coreygeer BANNED BANNED

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    Well, I've been trying to make enough money for a long time to get me out of this hell hole.

    Here's to sum it up, I am thousands in debt from a few small mistakes which lead up to big ones, I'm 19, I live with my mom, we only have one vehicle since my mom wrecked her truck and now shes uses my car for everything, so I can't get a job because we live in BFE and my mom is always using my car, I have $0, I always have to plan around my mom if I want to do anything or leave the house, and my friends always have to pay for me.

    Like tonight, my mom has to be somewhere for 9 hours so of course I can't go anywhere, me and my friend were going to get together to brainstorm how we could market some of our ideas better and make some money. It's not really just the money situation there's a lot on the side going on but I needed to rant and I figure i'd do it in the lounge.

    I've been looking into methods and found a few useful people while a lot of people just want to tell you their "great method" or AKA: sell you crap. I am literally about to lose my mind.. I need to start making $1,000/monthly so I can get out of this damn dump and I need enough money to buy my mom her own vehicle so I can have my freedom back. *sigh* there's my rant..
     
  2. babyboy808

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    There is so much great information on this forum that coupled with a can-do attitude and ALOT of dedication you can achieve your goal within 6 months I bet.

    Decide how you want to make money: affiliate offers, contextual ads (adsense, ypn etc), ebooks, private ads, etc etc, the list goes on and on. Then test a little of each and get your feet wet and decide what you feel more comfortable with.

    Then try and ramp scale it up. It won't be easy but with you can do it mate.
     
  3. MaestroDelWeb

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    Definitely you can do things like me. I slack, make a few sites today, take a couple of days off, make a sites, don't make any for a few days, talk shit on forums, then start the process all over again or if you're really hungry just work hard. On the internet hard work really pays off. The only failures online are either not trying or getting the wrong information. Here you have the right information but it's really effort based. I don't need the money, I do this for extra spending money although I try to invest most of it back. Your hunger will decide your fate. Hopefully you'll choose the work hard until you succeed method and once you succeed than multiply your efforts.
     
  4. BuzzKill

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    I think he is looking for someone to tell him what to work hard on, there is a slightly overwhelming amount of information and no shortage of people, here and elsewhere, who I believe are touting "tried and true" methods that are not tried and true but in fact speculation that makes sense to them but quickly has holes blown through it when a second pair of eyes looks at it. Sorry dude, many times I have sat down here and said "Ok, I am going to take one of these plans and systems I see here and follow it step by step and see what happens" only to find out that one or more steps is either - irrelevant, missing, or beyond my scope.

    I wish I had something that worked right out of the box, but if there is such a thing (and Im sure there is), no one is really going to tell you until they are done with it.

    I know thats no help to you, but really I think its best to figure out what you are interested in, and know back to front, and figure out what you would spend your money on if you had it and reverse engineer it.

    There is something to be said for figuring out a common problem and providing a solution to it. IM reminds me of drug dealing - you can make some money on your own, but the real money comes when you get other people to make it for you. I think that if your english is halfway decent, an e-book is a good idea.

    I also read something somewhere about a guy who went to forums, asked the people for their ideas on a certain subject, compiled it into a book and sold it right back to them. I am doing something similar right now and it appears to be working. Thats as close to an instant return with limited skills I can tell you, and its vague enough that the chance of you taking money out of my pocket is slim.

    If that doesn't work, theres always click fraud :)

    but what do I know anyway? Good luck.

    If you want to open a pheromone stand on the side of the road, I can totally provide you with the goods for that.
     
  5. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    OK! How to put this? Okay what are you good at. If you can design or something you can make quick cash from
    forums.digitalpoint.com. They always have logo and other design jobs. The reason I said "quick cash" even though
    I know you want a solid income. You should re-invest that small cash to start a business. You have made a good
    choice coming here. By being here you are literally going to abolish all cost for all the extra stuff needed to start your
    "business". Free softwares and stuff to fuel it. Now one thing that is proven that I needed, was a paid domain. Free
    stuff is unreliable. Nothing in life is free. So get yourself a good paid domain. I recommend http://www.dreamhost.com.
    Then all marketing techniques and stuff can better benefit you. Now you have your paid domain.

    Content is king. You can decide which way you are going to do this. A forum (which I think is a best investment as you see
    content grows by the members of the forum). A blog, for a stable blog on a paid domain I recommend Wordpress. Invest
    alot in blog. Now remember it is all about investing. So your going to do anything for now to earn more, then keep doing it.
    Continuing with content, Articles is a good way to go. If you are going to settle down with creating a nice stable content site,
    get into PPC (Read about it).

    Now where blackhat comes in? Promoting and Optimizing your site. That is all really. Some principals with a simple example.
    Do you have any Ideas? Or should I write more. I hope your situations go's very well. I wish you the best of luck dude.

    Kingdom
     
  6. MR.blackhat

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    A month ago I was in the same situation you are in but i still am ...

    dont give up!!

    with this forum i found 7 methods to make good money..
     
  7. MaestroDelWeb

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    Number one don't go to dreamhost for a domain. Go to a reputable domain registrar, never go to a webhost for a domain and never go to a domain registrar to get webhosting.

    Craigslist is definitely profitable with CPA companies just tailor your ad to the offer and post it in the appropriate place. I don't use it much but it still works.

    Video uploading still works and the more sites you upload to the more chances of success. I have videos that get 400 views on youtube and no comments and get several thousand views and tons of comments on other sites. Now create sites around the videos or at least somewhat similar.

    That's two ideas that still work but you do have to be clever and not do what everyone else does. I believe there are tutorials on here on how to do both successfully.
     
  8. coreygeer

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    I like the "adult" niche because just about everyone in the world is a customer. I'm also a gamer so I can go both ways. I don't know heavy info into HTML or website design or any of that. I've been trying some viral marketing with YouTube and i've been learning a lot about that lately.

    I learned a ton about PPC the hard way. I figured oh hey.. i'll just set up an ad that links directly to the affiliate link and make some $$.. that was a big no no. I didn't know anything about how the costs can increase, or choosing the right keywords or how to get your CPC lowered. I wish I knew all of that before when I had a few $ to spend haha.

    I'm still not sure which way i'd like to go with a domain. I can turn it into an "adult" site or something for gamers.. choices choices..
     
  9. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    Whats wrong with dreamhost :(, Bad experience?
     
  10. MaestroDelWeb

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    I guess it's the domainer in me talking. They are a webhost. I used dreamhost when they had a $10 for one year reseller hosting account and a domain included. I won't say they are bad with domains but it isn't the easy push that you get with domain registrars. If they don't have another $10 for hosting and domain offer I would never use them for a domain. There domains aren't good deals and it doesn't include an easy (free) push. If you want to buy domains cheap there are tons of registrars you can go to and push the domain for free into someone else's account in case you want to sell the site and domain later.

    Also if you forget or decide not to pay your bill they'll probably hold your domain hostage. That's if you get hosting also from them.

    If you want to get hosting from them PM me I have a great affiliate link where I get paid like $80 from them.
     
  11. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, true.
     
  12. vader

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    Corey been trying to make money on youtube, with adult video and keep getting them deleted or profile suspended.
     
  13. Oakley

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    Ya know what maybe I'm having a bad f**king day but this sounds like a lot of whining to me.

    10 years ago I got shit canned out of a dead end job, set down cried like a baby, (kind of like you are now) and said wtf I got a wife and 3 kids.

    I needed money period and didn't have a mom to feed me, that creates a very hungry attitude and a can do will that reeks of "do what it takes".

    10 years later I am a lead driver for a major food supplier in the U.S. not bragging about the job here as I'm about to kill the next f**khead that cuts me off but I did what I had to do!

    vze2yqtm got it right with effort based, take care of business and quit crying, your 19, breathing and your mom is feeding you...some would say your lucky.

    Get motivated if not for yourself for your mom. If she didn't have to pay for you to freeload she might all ready have her own vehicle.

    Now this is a parents perspective here and not IM marketing but nobody owes you a thing in life, including your mom who probably would give her last breath for you.

    Take what I said constructively and become your own person and be the best you can be, or blame me and everyone else for " I'm going out of my mind!" when really we all know it aint so bad for ya cuz your just sitn around rantin about it.

    Grasshopper you are 19 and can be and do anything you want. Only person in the world who can stop you is yourself, good luck, god bless and best wishes for you and your mom in 08
     
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  14. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    This is partially true, but just follow up. I cried my way up here.
     
  15. MaestroDelWeb

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    That's because they don't allow adult. You can put strip teases and stuff like that but if it's deemed offensive they'll still delete it and if enough offenses they will suspend. If they keep deleting keep creating accounts. Youtube isn't the only site in the world although it is a big traffic site. I get accounts deleted every couple of weeks but I just re-register and start over again and I'm happy with the traffic I got when the account was live. Learn from your mistakes. If they banned you for showing Britney Spear's tits next time go up to the point where she's about to show them and don't show the actual chest. If you steal the top viewed video of the day and they banned you for stealing someone else's content just don't steal that person's content anymore and start over.
     
  16. sinewave

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    Well said bactboats. While I sympathise with coreygear, it's nice to engage in actual grown-up talk here.

    That's not to say that there are not some very dedicated young people here.

    Best wishes and happy new year!
    Sine
     
  17. Rob the Builder

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    cough thats me......

    OK quickbucks

    Make squidoo lenses
    Make Hubpages
    Have a link to a clickbank product
    Post semi controversial post to dig propeller etc
    set a target of 5 lens a day.........yes it can be done
    FORGET SEO and appeasing Google = it is about people not F*cking Search engines!

    That will bring some money in

    Find forums where people are looking for answers to problems and HAVE money.

    research answers
    complie into a document use openoffice.org to convert to pdf
    sell info back to the same forum

    NEVER EVERY GIVE ORIGIONAL content away ie writing crappy articles etc just to make google happy.

    Sell the content

    If you can write write 20 articles about a niche then sell 100 copies will full rights.

    .....a few ideas that DO work

    OH yea stop posting crap to forums....thats a WASTE of time and energy, which is why my post count has dropped and why my output has gone up.

    and.......set a target of writing SOMETHING original every day for next month at least 500 words= 15000 word by end of January = a product or an article pack

    THEN try all the blackhat shit suggested here..some works...most doesn't...if someones selling you a system...don't buy it normally it means its been milked dry

    last of all..forget the IM crowd......."normal" people are much easier to sell to..........
     
  18. Rob the Builder

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    oh yea happy new year to all
     
  19. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    HAPPY new YEAR
     
  20. BuzzKill

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    winsave.com used to allow adult for really cheap. I dont know if they still do, but they used to be cheap, painless, and instant set up..