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I'm at my wits end and my last few dollars. Looking for my second (and last) chance...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by kPybus, Oct 29, 2011.

  1. kPybus

    kPybus Regular Member

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    Over the last year things have turned bad for me. I made 95% of my money offline through media production and publishing. Most of my business was build around a few key clients and all but one has either went under or has went overseas for their work thanks to the recession.

    In less than 6 months time I have went from a high 4-5 figures a month to 3...yeah, 3. I made less than $600 last month. I have a wife and kid, it's nearly bankrupted us. My wife, for the first time ever, has had to get a job (something i never wanted to happen, I'm old fashioned like that) but even she barely makes anything, less than $150 a week. We have scaled back our lives to the bare minimum (can anyone say rice and raman soup) and are basically living off of borrowed money and borrowed time....

    My last client called me up this week and has put everything on hold, it looks like our work with them is going to be over too. Probably by the end of next week. I'm going to close down my media production at that time as the market is horrible here and it's costing me more to run now than it's making.

    At that point I'm going to be 100% at the mercy of the internet. I'm going full bore black hat IM come hell or high water. I don't have much choice to be honest with you. It's either this or bankrupcy at this point. I've more or less played around with internet marketing, doing one test after another. But I've yet to find find something that really works at a decent scale. I've tried alot of things, but can't seem to make a decent amount on a consistent basis at all.

    I need help, I need advice. I've took alot of advice from BHW and I've spent well over $3,000 trying out various ideas I've found here, yet nothing has caught hook and taken off. I guess I'm in desperate need for motivation, and a direction to go in. I have $250 left in my 6 figure business and I'm still $20,000 in personal debt. I'm paying out over $600 a month just to pay minimum payments on my debts and the month is coming up again soon. Where should I go? What should I put my money in. What out there is really working and isn't just BS and hype?

    I have $250 to put into it, nearly all the money I have in this world. I figure I may as well go hard or go broke trying, because I'm going to go broke if this fails anyway. I have MS, SB, and tweet attacks pro. I have about 85 people on a mailing list (costing me $20 a month, never made me a penny). and I have about 20,000 followers on 6 different twitter accounts. I have unlimited hosting and about 10 different misc domains that I've used to test ideas.

    I have an amazon wpzon site (made me a whopping $0 in 3 months), three sites that I can sell (two flash game sites and one custom made facebook friends and likes service site, all making me $0), two authority sites w/adsense, a fiverr clone that is now in limbo, and a PR3 web directory I started two days ago.

    Well there's my life right now....hope and despair all rolled into one. I'm betting the farm, it's all I have. I need something to work, some help, some advice. I'm willing to learn and try. Teach me, show me. Mold me.

    p.s. before those whiners want to say just go read the forum (mostly because they didn't read my post) then all I have to say is that I have read the forum, hundreds of pages worth over the past year. I've even put in $3k over the past year looking for what works, but success seems further away from me now than it did then.

    I am seeking honest help and advice and I'm willing to use that advice and work hard to get back to the top. I don't need more criticism or smart ass comments, emotionally I'm already drained after fiverr shut me down the other day and I've had more than I can take.
     
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  2. ahiddenman

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    Article writing at $5/Article.

    You will have lots of paying clients from this thread most likely so if you can do one article in 20-30 minutes then thats $10/Hour :)

    Good luck and remember to take action !
     
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  3. marusia

    marusia Senior Member

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    Wow...

    Well, this is what I can say. I just had someone invest in me today, so I'll pay some kindness forward.

    If you're interested in selling stuff on ebay and what not, I can see what I can do as far as finding good dropshippers for you, as I have dozens of suppliers. I'll see what isn't too oversaturated at the moment.

    All I ask in return is that you'll kindly post a couple of tweets and facebook posts once my super cheap auctions are posted on ebay. :)

    PM me if you'd like some help.
     
  4. reinie

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    Well I am willing to help someone in need.

    First, i think you have too many online things going at the same time...from what it sounds like. I would focus on one or two things until it makes decent cash and then expand.

    Pm me your domains and I can take a look at the keywords you need to target and maybe help you with some promotion...
     
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  5. Malofie

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    Freaky, reading this was as if you were writing about me. Sounds like we have a lot in common.

    If you decide to take up marusia on his/her generous offer, and would like someone to work with in a partnership, (two heads are better than one). Let me know mate.

    Maybe we can help each other to get the results we're after.
     
  6. steelballs

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    While I appreciate you have problems, I have been in much worse positions - But one issue stands out in preventing you turning around your present position

    You must dscard all negatives in your life and MAKE EVERYTHING POSITIVE

    Start by removing this off your profile - FIVERR SUCKS!!! SCAMMERS, LIERS, DECEIVERS. BURN FIVERR TO THE GROUND!

    Good luck and get over the negatives and create positives
     
  7. smasha

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    This is what I would do:

    1. Write down the names of all the business owners you know.

    2. Call them and let them know you've being learning online marketing and think you can help them, make an irresistible offer e.g. I will generate you 20% more moola or you pay me nothing. If none bite, still stay in touch and start cold calling companies that are spending money on marketing.

    3. Hustle like crazy to double or triple their biz, through improving their landing pages, sales scripts, upsells, SEO and adwords accounts (don't worry about the technical details before you land clients).

    This can replace your income in weeks. If you are willing to work it.

    Look at other opportunities and filter them hard by this criteria e.g can they replace my previous income or am I just going to become a slave for $5 per job etc, delete any side projects and stuff that doesn't meet your criteria.

    Also find some real solid people online or offline that are making money (not hanging out in forums) or selling ebooks for $7, watch everything they do, question them, ask if they can mentor you etc.

    Magical black hat push buttons for money techniques are unfortunately rare and short lived, given you have a family to support and no savings, I would suggest aiming to build a long term biz.

    Probably even before step 1, I would add stop reading this forum, if you continue to do the things you have always done, you will continue to get the results you have always gotten.

    Best of luck.

    P.S. I also agree on the negativity comment, being negative will just attract more bad stuff in your life. Blaming the recession, clients, fiverr blah blah blah, won't do anything except protect your EGO that the position you are in is your own responsibility.
     
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  8. kPybus

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    Thank you everyone for the advice and help. I'm taking it all to heart.

    Yes, I could do some artices. I understand what people want..500 words or so, unique, keyword targeted, good grammer. I could write if anyone is interested.

    Thank you for the very generous offer. PM'ing you soon. I'm interested in learning more.

    I agree. I've done alot of testing and I have accumulated alot of projects. I need to clean the books! I need to sell these sites and get them out of portfolio so I can focus. Most of these sites are great, even get 200-300 visits a day, but they are taking my time away from what I need to be focused on (whatever that may be).

    thank you for the help. I will decide which ones I want to keep and PM you.

    I have never used odesk. I didn't know they had smaller jobs there, I'll look into them. Thank you.

    I know there are people worse off than me (remember the homeless guy thread) and I've been in worse places too. two years ago I permanetly hurt my back and tore both rotator cuffs in a work related accident makes it difficult for me to do manual loabor type jobs anymore and that being all I knew I was unable to find any work. Thanks to an a-hole boss and failure to file paperwork on his part I lost my workers comp and was denided unemployment too. I spent 6 months with no income before I build my media company from the ground up, which has now collapsed.

    I think you are right, I have become quite bitter lately. It's not the usual me, I used to help people with these sort of threads and now I'm on the other end. I need to get myself back on track emotionally and financialy.

    I quite literally fell into my previous company. I had a business partner that handled all of the clients (worst idea ever and was a big reason I could not recover when things went bad, btw). He backed out when things went downhill and left me with the company and the problems. We don't speak much anymore. I pretty much have to start over with my contact list. It's a mute point however, the business is over and being dissolved. It's part of cutting out distractions and getting focused on what is at hand.

    I didn't do SEO either, I did offline media promotions. I look people with talent and made them known to the world. I have a recording studio where we did Cd's, dvd's and the like then we promoted them. We also published books and promoted them too. It's hard to describe how dead this business is here, quite literally more horses than computers in my rural area, hence the reason why I'm moving on to full time IM so I can deal with a bigger market.
     
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    I suggest sell your recording equipment and use it to start a venture or get a JOB
     
  10. Dillmando

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    The problem that I have with blackhatworld is that there are so many methods I believe will work, I try them all. Take one method that you already have the skills for, perfect it, and then scale it up and change it. Good luck.
     
  11. kPybus

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    wow bro, you're so helpful... "get a JOB". Thanks pal. Do you yell that at the homeless when they ask you for change?

    Nearly all of my equipment was borrowed or has already been sold. I do have brand new $350 vinil cutter that I can't even unload for $25 on craigslist though. :(
     
  12. MKelly

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    kPybus, this is in hind sight, but remember that if you had started a white hat, quality site months ago, you'd be banking now. From your post I can see that you write well too, and you must know that you could have put a lot of energy and dedication into a quality site.

    I started with Black Hat SEO, that's why I'm a member here, but as a black hat SEO you have all the smart guys at Google trying to put your sites out of the search results, as a white hat SEO you have all the smart guys at Google trying to make your site rank higher.

    I'd spend $10 of that $250 on a domain, write about something you're passionate about, don't spam links, add regular quality content, gain trust, then bank.

    I don't do Black Hat anymore, so I can't advise on a short-term solution, some people on here might have some good advice though.

    You could try some freelancing sites, you must be skilled at something somebody wants.

    P.S. There's so many sob stories around of people out of cash trying to make money online and offline, it makes no difference, I'd say stick to business and put that energy into actually making money. What are you even doing reading this? Go make some money!
     
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  13. kPybus

    kPybus Regular Member

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    I'm doing that actually. One of my biggest pasions in life is wilderness survival and homesteading and one of my authority sites was built from the ground up by me with quality articles laced with amazon and adsense. It makes about $5 a month in the past three months. It's totally white hat. I have a white hat internet marketing site that I have been working on for about eight months now, it makes $0 a month, in fact it's costing me $20 a month in aweber.

    I think I'm hitting on alot of good niches in the best way I possibly know to do it, yet they all end up making me little to nothing per month even if the traffic is there. For example my internet marketing site gets about 450-500 visitors a day, yet can't get but maybe one adsense click a month at best and I have not had a new subscriber in two months.

    I'm doing something wrong, I don't know what it is. I think alot of it is being unfocused but I'm working on that at the moment.
     
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    You said you have a vinyl cutter, have you tried going around to local stores that don't have anything on their windows and offered cutting vinyl lettering to stick on their windows? I just bought a ton of vinyl words for my stores windows and its increased business a lot. The words we have in our windows aren't anything fancy, just white vinyl lettering. We paid out 30 dollars per line which ended up being 200 dollars.

    Just an idea.
     
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    Very nice said! Never thought of it like this before
     
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    How are you on creating content for a website? I have some content i'm suppose to create but honestly I'm lazy. It won't be much work but it might help. PM me if interested.
     
  17. kPybus

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    Pming you now. I'm interested in anything. :)
     
  18. Getwhatchuwant

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    I'm only slightly better off than you Kpybus but both my wife and I work and barely scrape by. I am paying for an ecommerce site that carries thousands of products. You mentioned that you have 20 sites or so and twitter accounts. I can create a coupon code for you and we can split the profit 50/50 for any sales you generate if you are interested. PM me if you would like to do this.
     
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    Be a man and get a job first. You have to stop the financial bleeding as fast as possible. You will have a hard time creating any worthwhile business coming from a place of such desperation. Seriously man.
     
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    Pm me if you want to write some articles. I can prob give you $50 worth of work in the next 2 days atleast if interested. Nothing hard, or that requires alot of research ;)