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I'm a bit confused about Google?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Alex Brooks, Oct 23, 2009.

  1. Alex Brooks

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    I was just reading this topic:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/128368-google-counting-my-no-follow-backlinks.html

    I always thought that that the nofollow, didn't mean it wasn't a backlink, just meant that the pagerank 'juice' was not carried over, therefore a nofollow PR10 backlink is the same as a PR0 ******** backlink?

    Can somebody please correct me? Or am I already correct? Nofollow just means it doesn't carry the pagerank over, but it's still a valid back link.
     
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    Nofollow or ******** high pagerank links are always good. The main goal of nofollow was to avoid problems with spam links. Like comments or guestbooks links.
     
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  3. Micallef

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    To disregard the effect of high PR links would be a mistake. I believe that nofollow links are near-worthless for serp increase. Just because they get indexed and shown in webmaster tools, doesn't mean they help you rank well.
     
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    From personal experience I can say that 'no follow' links from high PR authority sites do help regarding google ranking. Just to a lesser degree than 'do follow' links.
     
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  5. Alex Brooks

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    Thanks everyone, but the question remains un-answered.

    Are nofollow backlinks pointless?
     
  6. Micallef

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    It doesn't look like you'll get a definitive answer on this forum. Crooker and myself have a gentleman's disagreement about this issue :)

    I'm not willing to set Google's primary anti linkspam measure at nought - linkspam is a problem for them and I don't see why they would not use nofollow to its fullest extent to stop linkspam.

    However, Crooker believes that nofollow does help. To be honest I hope he's right, would make my life a lot easier, but I'm not seeing it myself at the moment.

    This forum can be a great help about some things, but other issues are debatable and to be honest, you're probably just going to have to make up your own mind. It's up to you whose advice you take.
     
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  7. peter2002

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    You are right. There is no final answer here. The topic 'no-follow' links is pretty much unpredictable. As I stated above I had success using no-follow links but know that other people failed in getting higher rankings using them.
     
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  8. Alex Brooks

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    Thank you very much, that's given me a better sense on where I stand with nofollow back links, I'm going to carry on building them if I can automate it, if not I'll just work with manual ******** :) Probably the best way to go about it, maybe a bit of both :p
     
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    I'm in the believe of no-follow works once you'd gain trust from google mean here you already ranked on the first page of google. i'll only spam my properties when they already in top 10 and sit there for at least two weaks. then, i'll blast them with whatever types of links and completely ignore do/no-follow.
     
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    ********,nofollow..Who the **** cares? Do some reverse engineering (technical, not just by observing the serps), and it will tell you that the ranking algo`s are changed drastically.

    As a side note, g00gle officially ditched PR a few weeks ago. Pr was useless for ranking purposes for the past year at least! So why is everyone still talking about this? Pagerank is dead!

    A nofollow tag tells the google bot that it should not pass PR to that link. It still indexes it! it still recognizes it`s anchor text! It`s still good for ranking!
     
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    Main positive thing about high PR - Fast indexing of your anchor text - do you know whats the power of that?
     
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    agreed with aliskore completely, I ranked very high in high competitive keywords just with nofollow links :p OoopS I did it again!

    The main thing to make google loves you is the relevant of backlinks (backlinks' topic & anchor text). Fucking PR has nothing to do with Google Ranking.
     
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    Thanks a lot everyone, obviously I've still got a load of reading up about google and articles about how their system MIGHT work.
     
  14. seoconsultant2005

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    nofollow means bots will not follow the link and crawl your webpage. But if you have a nofollow links on pages like Yahoo Answers, then you will get referring traffic. In actual nofollow is worthless in terms of link juice but can be good in terms of referring traffic if link is on high traffic page.
     
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  15. squelsh

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    Whatever you decide dont just focus on ********. Nofollows can drive traffic and having only dofollows could be a poor quality signal
     
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