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Greetings Everyone
I would like to ask/request that if you are going to post on this topic just post things with atleast some backed knowledge and not just personal insights, example:
- I disagree with you because my 10 accounts are working fine X
- I disagree with you because my only account running is doing well X
- Just give it time because blablabla X
This things aint needed, share them on other topic or anything else, save our time and save people from things we cant reproduce.
https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~ldekoven/publications/following_their_footsteps.pdf
Fact 1: Instagram was aware of both SMM Pannels / Automation Tools / Engagement Groups / Forums

With this premise we can proceed to the first conclusion: IG is aware of all public information being shared out there, so isnt like they dont know the strategies and so on.

Fact 2: IG is FB, and FB was involved in the fake news/ election scandal and they have to prevent it of happening again, so as a matter of fact we can say they will become stricter and stricter instead of lighter.

With this premise we can proceed to the second conclusion: IG will apply harder measures to prevent TOS (Terms of Service) breakers to fly free over their plataform.

Fact 3: IG is aware of not just the automation tools, but also the strategies, the methods used to try to hide you are using automation tools and so on, this lead to the 2 conclusions:
-IG is aware of the tools
-IG is aware of the known methods
-IG is aware of the known solutions

With a combination of Fact 1, Fact 2 and Fact 3 we can already reach the result:
-IG is aware of the known methods and strategies, the automation tools and the ways they are used and they want to prevent TOS breakers to avoid a new scandal.

Besides this we have the fact that people forgot, the Network Level:
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/network-purge-how-ig-purge-automation-users-nowadays.1129714/

On a Network Level Is pretty simple to understand it:
Every account needs a connection to operate, without a connection it wont work so for every account we need a connection.
Account + connection = Proceed
Account - connection = Wont Proceed
But the connection/network have something curious on it:
Normal users will have
Account + connection [Residential or Mobile] (Normal Cases)
When Automation users will have
Account + connection [Datacenter] (Normal Cases)

We already saw that even automation users that use Mobile or Real Residential aint getting blocked as the same as the ones using Datacenter proxies (The Majority).

The conclusion is simple: the % of normal users using datacenter proxies is much smaller than the comparison between % using mobile data and residential connection.

We could say, as a example, that the chance of a normal user only use datacenter connection would be 2 or 3 for each 10 accounts connected to a datacenter connection, so 20-30% normal users.
While in mobile connection we could say that from each 10 accounts in average we could see 7-8 accounts of normal users, so 70-80% normal users.
And while in the residential connection we could say that from each 10 accounts in average we could see 5 to 6 normal users, so 50-60% normal users.

In fact this lead to the known conclusion that the probability of a normal user using datacenter proxy is so small compared to the others connections that this is the MOST COMMON USED type of connection by TOS breakers (spammers, automation users, etc).

So maybe instead of talking that the tools are the problem you should see what are behind them, because if the problem is on that the tool will play a small role on the blocks itself.

And yes, sadly most providers that were always flagged are now gone.
 

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Incredible case study,

Thank you for your time and effort.
 

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In short,
Residential and home ip -> good
Everything else -> no bueno
 

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In short,
Residential and home ip -> good
Everything else -> no bueno
Home ip is usually a residential connection, but in some cases depending of your country it can also be considered a datacenter connection.

Residential comes from residence, that means "home", residential meaning was made to basically make clear that is a connection without mass usage.
Datacenter: Data Center, comes from a center of multiple data, multiple servers devices - usually static
Residential: Residence, a individual center of data, one routing device - usually static
Mobile: Mobile, comes from a data mobile carrier, one device that because of mobility and larger usage is assigned to a IP Pool - Dynamic
 

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From a personal standpoint I have my personal account running on a laptop on my home connection and even I am experiencing action blocks at ridiculously low settings. I don't run mass accounts and literally have only been using this on my personal. So to think residential/home ip keeps you safe is flawed as well.
 

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This doesnt change previous rules of automation.

Before the latest update people were still getting blocks and the ones who weren't had their own methods.

Stick to things that worked before but with addition to what OP wrote.
From a personal standpoint I have my personal account running on a laptop on my home connection and even I am experiencing action blocks at ridiculously low settings. I don't run mass accounts and literally have only been using this on my personal. So to think residential/home ip keeps you safe is flawed as well.
 

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This doesnt change previous rules of automation.

Before the latest update people were still getting blocks and the ones who weren't had their own methods.

Stick to things that worked before but with addition to what OP wrote.


Agreed. I had just never run into any problems botting my personal account and prior to this wasn't running ridiculous settings. This is on an aged account from 2012 btw too.
 

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Please I warned CLEARLY on the begin of the post, dont post about your only account working in X, Z ou Y way.
We dont know:
-How you made the account
-The quality of the IP used to create
-If you used a clean or bad device
-Your Warm up routine
_Your automation tool
-The things you did

I dont wanna hear your individual case, do your topic or WHATEVER, save OUR TIME and stop BS because we cant learn anything from your individual anedote.

Dont flood my post, I am giving general conclusion I dont wanna hear about your individual result tha wont matter anything because we cant reproduce it.

-I NEVER SAID RESIDENTIAL ARE THE SOLUTION
-NEITHER YOU JUST PUT A MOBILE ONE AND WHATEVER YOU DID IT WILL SOLVE
-I ONLY SAID ON AVERAGE THIS TWO ARE PERFORMING BETTER THAN DATACENTER

I am not talking this because I am arrogant or whateverm but because its useless to hear people talking about how they was walking and found a winning lottery ticket in the first time they left home after 20 years without leaving.
This dont help anything, we cant learn anything from that and no conclusion comes from that.

Blablabla my home connection doesnt work good
-Hide the fact you tried to force account creation
-Hide the fact you forced several settings that aint normal
-Robotic patterns and a dirty IP range

This doesnt give any insight and just make things worst for everyone.
 
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Please I warned CLEARLY on the begin of the post, dont post about your only account working in X, Z ou Y way.
We dont know:
-How you made the account
-The quality of the IP used to create
-If you used a clean or bad device
-Your Warm up routine
_Your automation tool
-The things you did

I dont wanna hear your individual case, do your topic or WHATEVER, save OUR TIME and stop BS because we cant learn anything from your individual anedote.

Dont flood my post, I am giving general conclusion I dont wanna hear about your individual result tha wont matter anything because we cant reproduce it.

-I NEVER SAID RESIDENTIAL ARE THE SOLUTION
-NEITHER YOU JUST PUT A MOBILE ONE AND WHATEVER YOU DID IT WILL SOLVE
-I ONLY SAID ON AVERAGE THIS TWO ARE PERFORMING BETTER THAN DATACENTER

True, but I also believe that having a mobile footprint will be essential in the future. As IG is a mobile platform, and the majority of users will connect to a Mobile network at some point. If there is no mobile footprint, I believe it lessens the trust score.
 

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True, but I also believe that having a mobile footprint will be essential in the future. As IG is a mobile platform, and the majority of users will connect to a Mobile network at some point. If there is no mobile footprint, I believe it lessens the trust score.
IG is FB, they have the database of millions if not billions of connections and real devices (browser fingerprints, mac adresses, canvas fingerprinting) so they can just cross that information to see what devices/connections have higher fraudulent risk, no normal user even know about proxy to begin with.
 

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IG is FB, they have the database of millions if not billions of connections and real devices (browser fingerprints, mac adresses, canvas fingerprinting) so they can just cross that information to see what devices/connections have higher fraudulent risk, no normal user even know about proxy to begin with.

Wouldn't be surprised if they have been using machine learning to bolster the algorithm and have fully automated/updating procedure for TOS violators, people point to these big releases.updates but don't think they realize it is all probably changing daily however slight the change may be.
 

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Thx for your time and you analisys!!
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if they have been using machine learning to bolster the algorithm and have fully automated/updating procedure for TOS violators, people point to these big releases.updates but don't think they realize it is all probably changing daily however slight the change may be.
To think a billionaire/trillionaire business isnt aware of that is what surprise me over, its not that they cant, is that they dont want actually, for whatever reasons they have.

To think a tool worth at most 1.000.000 can outbeat a billionaire/trillionaire business with worldwide data is insane.

Thx for your time and you analisys!!
Just did so people dont jump into the bleeding ship if they cant afford to lose.
 

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The main problem is the flagged accounts.

It is a hell to get out of the flagged situation !
 

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To touch on the IG knowing part, I really don't think Instagram wants to ban anyone who uses bots.

I think almost every business oriented account is ran by some sort of bot whether it be filtering DMs, or posting scheduled content. I think it really comes down to masking your intent on the platform. Spamming albeit spam is obvious from fresher accounts, overused IPs, and nefarious activity (DMing any type of link / liking everyone's post after following) so I think we need to look at higher quality ways to "spam" IG like running niche based accounts and then referring them ot a product that you profit off of rather than sending them links to fill out a survey. Instagram can figure out if you're a bot in literally two seconds by comparing your activity rates with "normal" looking accounts but it comes down to IF instagram wants to ban you. Make Instagram think you're apart of their ecosystem by offering more than just a follow back and a DM containing your pre-lander.
 

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Is there anyway to run a bot from a mobile footprint or is anyone doing this already?. If the program is a windows program cant you run that off a phone with an emulator or windows platform from mobile device. Worst case is you'll have to get a few sims to run multiple account. Is anyone getting blocks from manual on mobile?
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if they have been using machine learning to bolster the algorithm and have fully automated/updating procedure for TOS violators, people point to these big releases.updates but don't think they realize it is all probably changing daily however slight the change may be.

In your own case you aren't violating any tos and nevertheless you are also being hammered.
I don't believe they are being that intelligent.
My guess is that they are pushing to see if you withdraw or stay on the game.

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By the way, brazilian, congrats on the soccer win!
How are you thousands of accounts doing this days?
 

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Thanks for the read, very interesting post!
Instagram is constantly evolving, and as some say, it'll take down ABUSIVE spam botters, but not normal/low botters in my opinion.
And yes, I have seen the slight but important difference between datacenter/residential/mobile networks with my own eyes when it comes to botting.
The problem most people have when they lament about their acc's getting blocked isn't probably the network or the settings but a goddamn MIX of everything, from footprints, to network, to patterns, to stuff leaking and so on :)
 
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