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iFrame and CPA Offers

Discussion in 'CPA' started by fatboy99, Aug 15, 2008.

  1. fatboy99

    fatboy99 Registered Member

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    This is a method I've been using and wanted to share. I also wanted to see if I'm doing anything wrong or something that can potentially get me banned in the long run. Any feedback would be appreciated.

    I pick a CPA offer I want to promote, usually something high paying.

    I find a domain that goes with the CPA offer - something good/short and sweet.

    I mask and forward (through godaddy) the domain to the offer - or just iframe it on the domain's index page with the offer. Its the same shit, that's how godaddy does it.

    I buy cheap but real traffic to the domain. Usually more then 1500 UVs a day with a sign up ratio of 3:600 or so depending on the offer. Keeping the ratio low helps to stay undetected - at least in theory. I also tell my aff manager that I'm doing some PPC Marketing with a brandable domain to explain my high clicks.

    I buy leads at 40% of the offer. Gotta find yourself a good a connection and keep it.

    After buying traffic and the leads, the money I make is %50 profit. Still better then %100 of nothing.

    Thats it in a nut shell...

    What do you think? No flaming or any other bullshit please... :)

    Also - should I be using the double redirect instead? I don't really care if the aff knows the referrer bc the the referrer is the domain I bought for it... so..

    Anyways - any/all feedback is appreciated. If this has been posted - I didn't see it...
     
  2. edc

    edc Regular Member

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    It'll work great until the advertisers complain to the networks that your traffic is not converting and the networks at best tell you to stop running offers, and at worse ban you w/o payment. -e-'

    EDIT - you glossed over the most important part of the formula - 'get a good connection and keep it'. Easier said than done.
     
  3. bizkiller

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    lol

    yeah,

    so where do you get those leads?
     
  4. Krazy Kitty

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    OK....

    Why don't you do all that and NOT buy leads?

    Why don't you buy decent traffic?

    Take the honest approach.

    Then you'll have no problem - especially if you can find the right traffic for the offer.
     
  5. fatboy99

    fatboy99 Registered Member

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    Well - what do you mean the traffic not converting? The actual traffic be sent to the offer or the generated leads that don't convert into paid subscriptions? Lets take a EDU offer, all they want is pple that may be interested in their sponsored school. That's why its called a lead and not a sale. As the affiliate, you're providing them a lead, nothing more nothing less.

    Regarding the connection - well that's the hard part... but theres actually dozens of ebooks out there that show you how to get leads.

    Like I said above, gotta find a good reliable lead provider and/or find nice little ways to get them with out having to depend on targeted traffic.

    Because I don't want to wait to find a killer formula - I guess I can do that while I buy leads - until I find a killer combination of traffic and offer... I'm not sure what the honest approach has to do with blackhat though... I figured this method would be common here...
     
  6. Krazy Kitty

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    I have nothing against your method on moral grounds. However, purely from an intellectual stand-point, it would benefit you to be honest for two reasons:

    - You eliminate the possibility of being canned

    - You cut-out the middleman and, thus, increase profits

    I guess I must just have a talent for finding the right traffic for the right offer. I assumed it was easy.
     
  7. fatboy99

    fatboy99 Registered Member

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    Sometimes its easy - most of the time is not... or maybe I'm unlucky... I do see your point and you're right about getting caught and more profit... its just like i said, 100% profit of $20 is not as good as 70% profit of $100.... Thanks for your reply though....
     
  8. elvanvitar

    elvanvitar BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    this is a blackhat forum. what your describing is whitehat. that's fine and all if you want to do it. but it's not what this forum is about. blackhat by definition is shady marketing and most methods come with the eventual possibility of being banned.
     
  9. Krazy Kitty

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    You know, surprisingly, I'm aware this is a black hat forum. The point you are missing is black hat should only be undertaken when it is the best alternative. In this case, and in my opinion, white hat strategies are actually the best alternative. Maybe I should have spelled it out more clearly for you.
     
  10. HeyJay29

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    Well speak to us a bit more on this. How do you put together the connection in your own head.

    I don't mean put yourself out of business but a couple of your past successful combinations could be a stepping stone for others.
     
  11. bhnoobz

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    It's stupid. I hope you get caught and charged with fraud. It's not a blackhat method, it's an asshat method. If you took the same amount of time, effort and money you've invested in your asshat method, you could easily turn a higher profit without the risk of being canned for fraud.
     
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    elvanvitar BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    incentivizing non incentive offers is not fraud
     
  13. igetmoney

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    yea, seriously who the fuck are you to say what fraud is and what fraud isn't

    are you all of the sudden the moral compass of blackhat?

    douche.
     
  14. bhnoobz

    bhnoobz BANNED BANNED

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    Apparently reading and comprehension are not your strong point. Remove your head from your cavernous ass and read his post again. He said he's PURCHASING leads.. Gee, uhh I wonder what that entails? There's a difference between blackhat and scam 'tard bullshit. You fucking idiots waste all of your time trying to find ways to scam and make a few bucks. Then you come cry when they find out and take what little earnings you make. Grow the fuck up, do something right and earn real cash.
     
  15. elvanvitar

    elvanvitar BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    i dont think you know what blackhat entails. he is incentivizing non incentive offers. that can get you banned/terminated from some networks. but it is not fraud. it's no different than using email submits or other non incentive offers on those GPT sites.
     
  16. bhnoobz

    bhnoobz BANNED BANNED

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    Did you not read what he said? HE SAID HE IS PURCHASING LEADS. My understanding of purchased leads means the person did not sign up for whatever offers he's going to use their information and fill out. That's not blackhat, that's fucking stupid and bordering on identity theft. Maybe you should read the federal statutes that detail identity theft. The stupid lady that signed up for a fake myspace account and harassed that stupid girl that killed herself was charged with it.

    So go ahead, do it. Call it whatever you want. Let me know how that works out for you.
     
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    OMG you are such an idiot. Purchasing leads is in no way identity theft, it just means that you're paying someone to do a CPA offer for you. The only way this would be illegal is if you stole someones information and charged something to their cc. Not to mention the fact that we aren't all stupid Americans with stupid "federal statutes". Do you really think the American government is going to hunt down some random Indian man for buying leads. If so than I hope you're happy that they're spending tax payers money hunting down cpa frauders instead of improving your shitty health care system.You shouldn't scare people with your crazy ramblings.
     
  18. tanya7zhou

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    Ohhhhh, I'm sensing some heat here my brothers!!
     
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    hogatoga BANNED BANNED

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    What is all of this madness. I love how people totally ignore the problem at hand, which started the post and let the bighead get in the way.
     
  20. tanya7zhou

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    That's people for you. That kind of remind me of so many people who are not succeeding in Internet Marketing. WHY? Coz they get carried away by so many various things that they don't know where they are coming from or going!