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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by HaRRo, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. HaRRo

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    If you live in a place with a shitload of people i have an idea for you.

    Ok theres a ton of open source software or routers that allow you to make a hotspot to let others use your internet connection.

    Now get this software or custom router and a huge ass signal booster or huge antenna and set this up to open access with a little twist.

    Now with this software or atleast one i tried at home. As a test run it let me sell daily passes to use my internet for any amount i chose i tested with paypal.

    Now most of the open source or paid ones let you allow certain sites what we want to do here is allow paypal. Now when they connect to your wireless access point they will get your front landing page which explains to them you can have daily access by paying $1-3 or watever you choose.
    Once they fill that in they have full unlocked services and can use your internet for that 24hrs, or you could have a 3day pass and so on for extra.

    Now heres where we can twist it, since most people wouldnt pay for a days access this is fine, what we can do is whitelist all your CPA url addresses even the main page just so they can fill in the offer and have them fill out a one field submit for maybe 5hrs access. You can even use GOdCPA to make something very fucking pretty or simliar.
    Like enter your mobile phone number here to subscribe for 5hours, we use your mobile number to prevent people from abusing our system blahblahblah.

    (The only issue here would be the same ip, but im sure if you preplan with one of your CPA affiliate managers im sure they will let you do incentivized, they allow those kiosks to do these offers in malls and stuff so why not like this)
    Or you could just store there emails yourself for future marketing atleast you know it would be very targeted locally.....

    Now you could use this. But again since the router or software is in full control of the hosts, and whatever sites you dont want them to view you can block. Then redirect. So options are open here too. Only problem is itll be the same IP. Im sure we can work around that easy.

    Another example here is going to www.conduit.com creating a toolbar, and making them install the toolbar (or other similar www.*******************) (i will not talk ppi here as we dont allow it and once installed allow them access.

    The options are endless you could charge, or even use sms reverse billing for to bill them.

    If you lived in a block where theres like 10k students running about with laptops if 100 people bought a days access at $1 thats $100 profit,

    The options are endless just an idea if you profited from one you could start planting them in shopping malls, schools, you get the idea.

    Proxies would and could be a solution to CPA's or make them signup to ebay or anything who knows im not very awake right now but just an idea.

    P.S apologies if this makes no sense, havent properly slept in days and hungover and its late :D
     
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  2. WhiteHatConvert

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    LMAO - Harro just showed that he has the one fucking thing that every marketer needs to make bank!

    Creativity...

    Seriously, think about it. Every good idea that has been promoted in marketing has come from some guy sitting around and then all the sudden saying to himself "holy shit, that will work -- I'm going to make bank".

    Thanks for posting this. Definitely has my creativity going now :)
     
  3. jonnyh431

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    talk about thinking outside of the box.
     
  4. HaRRo

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    Well think of it this way too, how many caravan parks could do with wifi access and dont have it.
    If u stayed at a caravan park the weekend and knew they did wifi access for $10-20 for the weekend would u purchase i know i would. That or doing some offers or something similar.

    Let your creativity go wild.

    Think of a simple idea one that popped into my head is.......

    Where do people go and wait a long time. Hmmmm taxi depots, womans clothes stores.

    Now imagine a big shopping store that is a place for girls to shop, how many husbands boyfriends hate that crap. Now how much does 5-10 cheap computers cost ? $2000 or so you could probably and broadband in there.

    Now setup these computers like you would in an internet cafe, i bet a ton of shops would take up your idea as a waiting chillout internet room for males to waste there time while there gfs shop. Charge them access. If they pay for 1hr that keeps them in the store for 1hr = more shopping = more profit for store and you.

    Not only that another idea would be coin operated music jukeboxes with headphones for husbands to chillout. 1dollar a song link it up to automate purchasing on itunes, to stay legal, when they pay there dollar it loads up your own custom itunes player they search and buy one song, even if its already on your system you own legal rights for it to be played in that one computer right ? So dont buy it again just profit the dollar.

    Ideas like these flow through my head in an hourly basis.
     
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    I dont know about uni's. My uni has free wireless internet access. What legal issues helloall? I guess you would probably have to jv with the airport/uni/shopping mall etc.

    Ah thanks harro your second post gave me a better grasp on the idea. Tis a grand idea. Just for fun, i will come up with some plans.

    Im thinking of those game rooms, timeout zones, but a small group of computers.
     
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  6. teenmoney

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    Ladies and gentlemen this is why Harro makes more than you :D
     
  7. WhiteHatConvert

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    ahhhhhhh,

    I don't believe you.....

    Package them all up in a neatly formatted email and send them to me...I'll report back to everyone else whether or not it is true or not :)
     
  8. HaRRo

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    How about building a cheap van that sits in a busy place in a city center with a few car batterys linked up in the back and having every phone charger possible and sell people quick emergency charges ?

    Imagine a drunken girl its 1am after the clubs shut and she needs to text her boyfriend to pick her up, theres phonebooths but she doesnt know his number but has it in her mobile phone.
    Now she owns a nokia, since most nokias use the same charger cheap for you to charge them all, buy like 5 of them incase its a rush and charge her $10 or so rip them off, people that need shit bad will pay.
    Not only a van this could work if u made little kiosks in shopping centers too, airports, and anywhere where people could not have access to a phone charger.

    You could automate it if you built a coin operated system i guess that loads up the power for that slot for 10 mins when u stick 5bux in or something.

    There :D
     
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  9. pyronaut

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    IN New Zealand (And i assume elsewhere aswell) There is things called "Tomizones". Where basically, they supply you with a router and a shit tonne of software to run it on. And basically people pay to leech your internet (Has a download cap). And you get like 60% of the profits or something.

    If you are in the middle of the city its pure gold. Mostly because if you go with them and although your only taking 60%. You get a tonne more because its a new zealand wide thing. So they pay for a weeks usage and then go use it all over the country they dont have to stay on your particular connection.
     
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    It wouldnt be your premises this is why i said to make deals with the shop owners as it would keep shoppers in there place until the time runs out.

    Its up to them if they allow you or not. There business there business license your just providing them with a revenue sharing project i guess, or they might let you do it free since its helping them out.
     
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    Nice idea with the charger harro, though it be cheaper to go poundland and buy the battery one with the adapters, and sell it onto the for a £5, 400% profit. May try it next wednesday :D

    In terms of the Internet, there was a company on Dragon's den last year that does that for Mariners, so when the yacht berths they can get wireless internet, they have an international membership programme too! Just think if we set up a wireless point in Every Greyhound station!
     
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    Yes about the marina wireless connections, i used to pay for it until i got 3g/HDSPA
    :)

    Yeh the poundland one is a good idea too you could work this idea with bars too, and you know those dispensors, like coke and shit, sell them in that i guess
     
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    We have that in New Zealand already inside the malls. And its at our theme parks elsewhere (New Zealand looks like its ahread in tech stakes :p). Basically all the main chargers like a couple of ericson ones and nokia etc. And its like 5 bucks for a 10-15 minute charge. And they are located next to coffee places so you buy a coffee while your waiting.

    On trademe here (New Zealands ebay). Someone was offering it as a franchise option in whatever area you lived. But it was something like a 50k buy in.
     
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    Thanks HaRRo appreciate the software mention. haha :p


    Also great method, wish I went away to school.
     
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    Thanks pyronaut, didnt know we had that in new zealand.

    If you want a good signal booster it may just cost you $100's or $1000's:
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    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080903221924AA87olD
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    I looked into tomizone. You could offer to pay for the business' internet connection, computers, and routers. (Knowing a good electronics dropshipper will be useful) You could also pay them monthly to have your service there. Or you could do as they say and sell them the technology and use tomizone as a selling point.
     
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    for at least 3 years nearly all newpaper kiosks here in NYC US have had a variety of phone chargers available for emergency use for a few bucks. It's a great idea.
     
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    Dicksmith electronics (New Zealand electronics store) has massive aerials for wireless connections. Well not massive, but maybe a foot - a foot and and a half long. I have one that is fairly large and i manager to pick up other networks that are quite a distance away. Mine cost 50 NZD and i think the ones they sell now are 80 bucks.

    Tomizone is fairly cool. After reading harro's post i was actually going to give it a go for a week and see if anyone in my apartment building would use it. But dont have the correct router.
     
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    Theres windows software that is compatable with all routers and shit that can do the same and custom firmware, or addons search hotspot software on google you will see a lot of options.
     
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    Call me a pussy . But im weary of using 3rd party firmware on my router. Bad experiences in the past. Not to mention, most are paid so would be getting a crack. Any one software you reccomend harro?
     
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    There was a free one i sampled a while ago, it didnt do much to the router, and was quite safe and had paypal, 2co and other payment gateways built in, it was pretty damn good :D

    If i remember it tomorrow i will let you know