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If you have been approached by a Newbie that makes BIG Claims and NEEDS YOU...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by BlackBeauty, Mar 3, 2011.

  1. BlackBeauty

    BlackBeauty Power Member

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    I am not going to speculate or make any accusations, but there is something real foul in there air with a newbie here that seems to want to recruit everyone, yet they have absolutely no history, no references, a throw-away site and domain name, and they are way too inquisitive.

    DO NOT TRUST NEWBIES!!!!! I will only say that once...then I will personally "Haha" you when you join me on ROKSO for trusting too many people (like I did).
     
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  2. xCamaradax

    xCamaradax Registered Member

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    "DO NOT TRUST NEWBIES!!!!!" That seems kinda dumb IMO

    Just ask for references,google your new partners and etc not all newbies are scammers and or etc

    Again thats just my opinion
     
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    You should trust only your judgment if you dont have someone to guide you.
    First ask pro's and after decide :)
     
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    Dont throw all of us in the same POT !
     
  5. WizGizmo

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    1) Which newbie are you talking about.
    2) What proof of your accusations can be confirmed?
    3) Why are you posting this thread in the Email Marketing section?

    "Wiz"
     
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    Ya, I think it is more just highlighting the importance of making an informed decision. Personally, I like to do my research. I'll go through their posts to see how they interact on the forum. For example, are they contributing in the majority of their posts or did they use "thanks for the share" lines to get to 15 posts. I'll check any sites mentioned for quality and reviews/complaints. The biggest thing I look for is money being the main topic of conversation. If that takes precedence over the service I am wanting then I stay away. Also, "yes men". I tend to shy away from anyone that just agrees or states that they can do any tasks you require with no explanation of how, etc. no matter how outrageous.
     
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    Thread moved to the lounge. I would have moved it to the Shitlist but no one in particular was mentioned by the OP. And "sercon" was right. You can't put all newbies in the same category. Everyone has a chance to prove their trustworthiness before judgment is cast upon them. You can't assume that all newbies are untrustworthy.

    "Wiz"
     
  8. BlackBeauty

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    Sorry for the generalization statement...all newbies aren't bad...but I have NEVER met a newbie here that ended up being a good client, partner, or provider...so, from my experience, even newbies with good intentions are "typically" over-zealous, under-educated (on the subject at hand), and at times...they can be Anti's in waiting and baiting providers to be transparent for private blacklisting applications.

    THAT BEING SAID...I HAVE WORKED WITH AND STILL WORK WITH NEWBIES IF THEY ARE TRANSPARENT BUT I DO SO WITH CAUTION!

    It's hard to tell what is going on with a newbie and this business allows for very few mistakes before it costs thousands to rebuild. I am only speaking from my experiences and I am sure that there are many newbies that are genuine and honest...but does that make them a good colleague in this business?
     
  9. BlackBeauty

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    1. I am not identifying the newbie because this is not an accusation.
    2. I have no proof, hence why this is not an accusation
    3. The Email Marketing forum is the only community I am active in.

    This is, by no means, a sarcastic answer...it's just the short version. I happen to have experience in dealing with Antis and I have a heightened sense of paranoia.

    So, either I am smelling a "rat" due to my "paranoia placebo" or I am seeing a whole lot of signs that appear to be a "bait and hook" from someone that is not being genuine and reporting it to my peers. I am not in the position to make any accusations at this time, so I will not do so.
     
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  10. WizGizmo

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    I did not give you a neg rep or an infraction. I only gave a neg rep once on BHW,
    and that was because of someone making a racial slur toward Yukinari, who is a
    highly respected member of BHW.

    "Wiz"
     
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    i believe we are here for business and not to report each other,moreover we are here to correct were their is mistake.
     
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    Not still getting the purpose of this thread.

    Did you do trade (one or many) with "newbies" in the BST section or outside it? You don't seem to have any iTraders so how should we believe you have traded on BHW, leave alone trading with "newbies"?

    The thread comes out as if you are accusing all the newbies! Poor "newbies", all of them are under "racial" attack it seems -- you make out newbies as if they are a race anyone can come and hit ALL these "newbies" whenever they like! So can you be a bit more specific or apologize to all these "newbies" -- as you call them?

    Come on friend, walk into a fire or walk into a friendship -- if there is only one specific "newbie" who has rubbed you then at least don't hold all new-comers guilty of "fouling the air"...

    Contradiction:
    Re: "...but there is something real foul in there air with a newbie here that," .... .... "DO NOT TRUST NEWBIES!!!!! I will only say that once"

    One equals All?


    Contradiction:
    Re: "... all newbies aren't bad...but I have NEVER met a newbie here that ended up being a good client, partner, or provider"
    Really! If all aren't bad then at least one of them must have been one of those good whatever? :)

    "... so, from my experience, even newbies with good intentions are "typically" over-zealous, under-educated (on the subject at hand)"

    Really? All newbies are under-educated on subject at hand? lol

    "I HAVE WORKED WITH AND STILL WORK WITH NEWBIES"
    Thank you! Even after all their shortcomings ... you are very gracious!

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    So, how does it feel when someone attacks your contradictory statements "for no reason at all"? :)

    Also, how long does a "newbie" stays exactly a pure "newbie" according to you? I mean until he/she reaches 500 posts? Then you and most of us all are guilty of being the "newbie" in your book. What exactly is a "newbie"? Where does his or her "newbie-ness" ends? If you need very high quality work done and your "newbies" aren't capable of achieving it, then be it... move on and hire a pro .. if you can afford him/her then why not!

    In other words, if you dislike the way a particular newcomer is misusing this forum then go ahead and use the report button and allow the Mods to look into the matter. Why come up here with some vague accusation and blast all the "newbies"?

    Hope you understand my humble concerns, my dear friend! :)
     
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