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If you COMPLETELY outsourced ALL of your offsite seo (backlinks), what would you do?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by uncguy4321, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. uncguy4321

    uncguy4321 Regular Member

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    Hi guys,

    I'd love for as many people as possible to respond to this. I'm making a bit of cash now, not much, but a bit -- enough to start thinking of outsourcing backlinks.

    I'd love to hear from everyone on what exactly they'd do if they theoretically HAD to outsource backlinks for a site.

    Think of the site as a medium or med-low competition site. Maybe 10,000 exact local searches per month.

    If you're not comfortable giving exact services, please give an idea or generalized list of services.

    Thanks!
     
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    uncguy4321 Regular Member

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    Interesting. So, instead of buying distinct services, ie "50 edu backlinks for X dollars"...you'd hire someone full time.
     
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    You need to valuate how much an hour of your personal time is worth, see how much time you're spending on various tasks, and see whether or not you're actually a more expensive employee than someone you could hire or a product you could buy.

    I'm a bit confused on the nature of the question though as to what would I do if all my backlinking was outsourced. I figure I'd spend time generating and posting new content? It may not be the most popular or a get rich quick scheme, but good content is my backbone.
     
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    Well, it's not necessarily a realistic scenario. So I said "theoretically," because I know most people here prefer to outsource content.

    me, I'm probably better at producing content, and I'd rather concentrate on that and build good quality sites...and out source backlinks.

    So, Lake, if you were in that situation and you theoretically outsourced all backlinks, what would you do? BTB's linkpushing, etc?
     
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    I'd get my hands on a copy of Matt Carter's video course The Outsource Files. He covers outsourcing for both link building and article writing and you should be able to find it for free on the internet.
     
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    Any specific services you guys would use?
     
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    Good luck. I've hired so many outsourcers and 99% of them produce absolute shit links. You really have to take them by the hand and show them what to do and then keep a good eye on them because they WILL slack off on the quality of the work as soon as they think you're not looking.

    I think your best bet is to hire someone locally and have him work out of your home/office. Also never reveal the entire formula to them. Once they figure out how to run a full backlinking campaign on their own, they will ditch your ass.

    I'm not being pessimistic, I'm telling you as it is.
     
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    Cameltoe, I agree to an extent and appreciate your post.

    Teenie, agreed on LP and thats the first thing I'm trying shortly.
     
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    I run a team of 9 Filipino's and they produce excellent work. Does everyone you hire turn out to be a winner? Absolutely not.

    If they are producing crap results it's because you've not trained them properly. Getting your own staff multiplies your results quickly BUT only hire people when you are proficient at link building.
     
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    There are a lot of link building services out there, so my advice would be to do some research and start testing some services on your sites.

    The buy and sell services area in BHW has a lot of great places to start.

    To be honest, I like to outsource mostly my content creation and do my backlinking on my own.

    The reasons for this are simple:

    1. I hate writing articles (I suck at it, too lol) ;).

    2. Content creation takes the most time. The less time spent researching and writing articles, the more time I can spend building sites and promoting them.

    3. I have more control over testing and tracking different backlinking methods.
     
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    Elvis, are you recommending to use ALL of these? And if so, for the same keyword?

    Reason I ask is because it seems to me like the first three are pretty similar
     
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    You can also add Jstover77 to that list.

    Yeah I use all of them but mix them up initially I plugged them all in and then couldn't gauge what was working and what was wasn't but I think the ones on that list will work in some way for most sites.

    I would start of with the linkpushing then have a few month with Cash202 service then move on to Jstover77 (he likes you to be in for the longer term) you can then use backlink genie and backlink booster to run some diversity across your keywords and inner pages that you havent focused on with the other services.

    I am also playing around with manual commenting on high PR sites, (i think you need to do this yourself or keep a very close eye on it) and I have also been running some tests with Magic Submitter which seems to be good in terms of how easy and versatile it is to use, results from it are as yet unproven.
     
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    delegate - just think up ideas and have them implemented the same-day
     
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    I would hire me, and save yourself the time of spinning articles, save yourself the costs of multiple blog network memberships, save yourself the time from scheduling everything. And rank like crazy!

    cash202 seoblast is a waste of money btw, there are many people who do it for much cheaper. Even with Fiverr you can get the same shit done for maybe 50 bucks and hire a phillipin for a couple hours to do the rest (maybe $20 extra).
     
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    Yeah, I am definitely going to buy Jstover77's service. What appeals to me is that you can rank 10 different keywords
     
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    Hire someone and train them to do exactly what you need them to do, if you can pay some one $2/hr to do what you're doing why on earth would you not do that. This allows you to give your business better direction, work on growing it or starting another business and so on.
     
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    I know a lot of websites where you can hire Indian and Pakistan web developers but what ones do you recommend for Filipino people as their grasp of English might be better
     
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    Hi,

    im running a few pages... 90 % of them are selfmade. Promoted with a bit White and Blackhat.

    Im currently working on the idea of outsourcing. I already have a Writer (my english isnt the best and i hate writing) and using linkpushing for seo and a few other services.

    Right now it looks, that the outsourced projects pays them self. so i make 0 $ and lossing 0 $

    Im at the beginning of this process. Hopefully i can optimize it!!

    just my 50 cents
    Cheers