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If tier 1 is web 2.0s, tier 3 is GSA spam, then what is tier 2.0?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by seoguy0, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. seoguy0

    seoguy0 Junior Member

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    Hey,
    Got a serious question. Normally, when you want to power up your tier 1 links, you shoot up web 2.0s as tier 2 and spam into them as tier 3.

    What if web 2.0s are tier 1? What do you plug in as tier 2?
     
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    marios_521 Regular Member

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    Web 2.00s again. I treat them like PBNs.
     
  3. Shaunm

    Shaunm Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I am doing similar stuff in my journey thread on over 100 money site pages now with a number of different linking pyramids. It would be beneficial to realize SER is able to provide a whole bunch of links that have different uses so you can adapt it into different strategies. You can even adapt different link types for different jobs such as using profiles and forums as contextual as explained here.

    I go over my latest link pyramid in this post of my journey thread as well as show some of its rank tracker progress in this post as well as a few other posts throughout the journey thread. One thing I will say is that my sites from this year are behaving totally different from the ones I made last year. They are climbing differently even though they technically have stronger links in their pyramids and their analytics data is different again. Although pages are climbing in the ranks now, it takes time and Penguin 4 changed the game in my opinion and since then we have had updates in December, Feburary, Fred in March and another in May so I have no idea if these climbing pages will get to top 3 of page one or not.
     
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  5. seoguy0

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    So you are saying it's no suspicion that tier 2 web 2.0s are the same as tier 1? E.g. tier 1 is wordpress, joomla, over-blog and each one of them also has wordpress, joomla and over-blog linking to them.

    Dear shaunm, how are you use SER for tier 2 links? Please let me know, I always thought they are too poor for tier 2.
     
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    You can use 301 shorteners if those still work idk.
    Will test it soon ->
     
  7. marios_521

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    It sounds ok to me. People is naturally linking between those platforms. You can anyways (and that is my opinion) to diversify. If you use 10 different Web 2.00 properties, it is fine if 5-6 of them are the same on both tiers (again, even if they are all the same, its ok for me).

    I hope you don't use the same accounts! Right?
     
  8. seoguy0

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    Of course not, thanks. Now how about the SER usage for tier 2?
     
  9. Shaunm

    Shaunm Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    People were saying stuff like that on here this time last year and I was still pushing pages to top 3 with nothing but links from SER on T1, T2, T3. I have a few tests up now trying the same thing with nothing but SER links but with a bunch of twists in it as its much harder now. I also have a fair few pages with SER on all tiers for various purposes but use RX or manual T1 links as the main links for T2/3 link building.

    Mainly I try to have the majority of links on T1/T2 as contextual but I also have some projects pushing noncontextual links into them too. If you are looking to use SER then I highly recommend you read my GSA SER Tutorials here and my GSA SER Case Studies here. Most of the people I see and talk to on here, CPAElites or the GSA forum try to go about using SER like the guys Roy put up on the GSA forums years back but my projects look nothing like that these days due to various tests and evolutions I have put them through. I posted this method in a thread on here over a year ago now and my more recent projects look nothing like that anymore due to constant changing and development of my understanding of the toolset and SEO.

    Here is one set of projects set up about a week or so back, although there are a bunch of links in the submitted column, the vast majority of them are actually verified due to the way I filter my lists and set my projects up to keep LPM as high as possible. This is one campaign with 8 projects with 6 of the building SER links and two holding projects for manual web 2.0s and RX links.

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    Again though, i'm not saying this stuff 100% works anymore, I have some of my pages on page three now but they are only 1-3 month old depending on the money site in question and I dont expect much climbing for another few month yet.
     
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    Mix it up, there is no perfect tier strategy.

    If you have web 2.0s as tier 1 then you can use the following as tier 2

    - 301 shorteners <- GSA
    - More web 2.0s <- GSA
    - GSA links
     
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    Samwacgamchy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    tier 1 web 20s are usually ones with unique content (ones which aren't spammed to death) - tier 2 are web 20s which any tool can build - tier 3 is GSA links

    tier 1 web 20 sites are multi-page sites and not one page wonders. Tier 2 links are all one-page wonders (or you can post more content if you want to).
     
  12. seoguy0

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    Shaunm, so what platforms/engines are you using for tier 2 with GSA? I still didn't get it. Contextual articles & social networks? How do you know this article won't be posted on some trashy chinese site?
     
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    Check this post out that I linked above, the diagram in it might help you understand it a little better. SER C is SER contextuals and SER N is SER non-contextuals, both are used on T2 for my current round of projects. Also, its not that I do or don't know if the article will be posted on a Chinese site, its that I don't care.

    You have to realize that unless you are using SER to post to your own sites or building a higher quality list, all the links you push out from it will be regarded as low quality by most people. Your job as the black hat link builder is to look at what it can produce and come up with plans of where to use each link type to get the most from the tool. I try to minimize the risk of some Asian CMS' by turning off PHPWeb and DEDIems but other than that i'm not too fussed these days.

    In the past, I have definitely seen better results when using CMS' such as WordPress, BuddyPress, Drupal and Joomla (real Joomla, not the K2 plugin but they are rare) on the T1 from SER but this seems to have died with the rollout of Penguin 4.
     
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    To keep it simple, if you have hand made web 2.0 in Tier 1, you should use all contextual type links in Tier 2 (use GSA/RankerX/Senuke) and everything in Tier 3 (Again use GSA)
     
  15. seoguy0

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    @Shaunm Thanks, I am now implementing that diagram. Could you please tell me which exact engines to use for contextuals and non-contextuals? I mean I know there is that option "uncheck non-contextual", but it still leaves a few microblogs and blog comments.

    Am I correct thinking that according to your diagram, contextuals should be: articles, forums, social networks & wikis, non contextuals: blog comments, image comments, directories?
     
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    In my case Tier 2 is same as Tier 1. Tier 3 is GSA to index everything and bring juice.
     
  17. Shaunm

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    Those auto select options when right clicking the platform pane can be a bit of a nightmare tbh, as you said it often leaves a bunch of random stuff so I manually do it most of the time. For contextuals I now use all articles other than PHPWeb, all social network engines, all wiki engines provided you are using filtering projects to only get do follow media wikis else it will fill you with no follows. I use forums as contextual platforms but you have to use it as explained in this post linked above else it will be a waste of time and I dont remember the forum engines I use off the top of my head.

    Noncontextual wise I think I use all blog comments other than PRWeb or whatever the one that required a full article is called, all guestbooks and all image comments but again you have to use filtering projects else the image comments and general blogs will fill you with no follows and waste resources.

    You need to realize that the diagram literally shows platform/engine types. It does no go into link counts, link velocity, content and the most important thing....keyword research but it should act as a good base to build on :).
     
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    Does the GSA is secure be used on our site???
     
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    If tier 1 is web 2.0s, tier 3 is GSA spam. Then, you can blast your Tier 2 with RankerX for faster backlink indexing.
     
  20. Jon7337

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    Tier 2 is used to filter the gsa spam. Make sure the Tier 2 content is related to your Tier 1, this will give Tier 1 some sort of authority on that niche. That's why for tier2 I mostly use contextual links