Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Lauriat, Nov 2, 2015.
if public pbn that sells links is caught and deindexed will websites get penalized ?
Yes, but sometimes the money sites don't get penalized
Not necessarily, but this will raise the red flag.
Typically yes, obviously it's situational but in most cases sites being linked to via the PBN are penalized.
It depends upon a lot of factors, but if your main link juice is coming from the PBNs then you are more likely to get penalized than if you have good link structure and good link diversity from authority sites, not just spammy links.
If you have all the links from PBN & caught your money site will be penalized.
May or may not slap the sites. Depends upon how sure Google is that they have a cheater. It also seems to depend on the rest of your SEO footprint and your authority.
I will say this though. A lot (LOT) of publicly sold PBNs have been destroyed. I buy those links a lot for various projects and clients, and of roughly 3,000+ I had listed I've noticed nearly 1,200 delisted in the past month. Think about that. Thats a HIGH ratio. Luckily no penalty has resulted as of yet. But I don't use these links the same way most here do.
Pbn public blog network pbn private blog network. Make your own mind up.
Can you clarify, do you mean providers on here - or external public networks? Mind PM'ing me any to avoid?
A mix of all-of-the-above. I buy links everywhere, absolutely everywhere. The ones I saw from here that got smashed aren't really active anymore, lucky for you, as the sellers aren't dumb and know their shit went bad. One things I did notice that is odd is that a HIGH percentage of PBN links I bought in early September were all deindexed within the last two weeks. My advice is what its always been with regards to buying PBN links publicly... buy fresh. Buy the fresh networks that just came out. All (nearly) of these one-time-fee public networks only buy 1 year's hosting, so if you buy links on it in day one you have the best chances of buying a link that stays for 10 or 11 months. Secondly a fresh network seems less likely to fall than one thats been selling links for 6 months. Some networks ADD sites periodically, and on large older networks I sometimes request the newest sites. But the fact of the matter is that public PBN links are always being hunted by Google. They're the cheapest/easiest/fastest links to get that are decent, but they come with a down side.
Sound advice; thanks.
I always wonder how some providers keep the same network running for so long, I guess from the outside you don't see the churn of sites they're getting through.
I'm also intrigued about how you use these links be most people?
Most of the time it just loses all the SEO benefits it had in the first place. I'd imagine it would get deindexed if the only links it had were from that network.
As far as I know in most cases money sites aren't penalized/deindexed, however there are exceptions too.
What happens is they add sites over time. They open the network with say 50 sites, the network sells well so they keep it going. Then as the first 50 sites reach max OBL they build 50 more and keep going. Now the question of WHAT HAPPENS to those filled up original 50 sites is what is interesting. From what I've experienced most sellers still let full sites to expire after they're done with them. If you notice and complain a good seller should/would give you a replacement link on one of the newer sites but that too will eventually run out of hosting, fill up and expire.
This is the dirty secret of link building. And this is why some people like subscription based PBNs, where you pay per month for your links. Problem there is you HAVE TO keep checking every post you ever bought every single month to be sure you aren't being charged for nothing. So if you run a LOT of links and sites like I do that is not plausible. And I don't trust those networks to stop charging me if their network gets deindexed.
Depends, sometimes sites can get manual action.
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