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If Instagram Really Wants, It Can Recognize 100% Of Botting Tomorrow ?

Discussion in 'Instagram' started by nikosios, Jun 24, 2019.

  1. nikosios

    nikosios Newbie

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    Share your thoughts.
     
  2. JamieJayden

    JamieJayden Junior Member

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    Wouldn't they have done it already?
     
  3. alossra

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    they Know,
    They Fighting spam and heavy botted accounts
    but they can't do much about it as people use automation to manage and schedule posts and analyse there audience ! and that is not against there rules tho
     
  4. toninin

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    there are more accounts just created but done nothing, how can they recognize them..
     
  5. nikosios

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    they can decide what to automate, and block following/liking activity
     
  6. nikosios

    nikosios Newbie

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    they're on the way
     
  7. alossra

    alossra Regular Member

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    it's not as easy as it sound!
    But they are making improvements as we can see people complain day by day!
     
  8. Heisenberg's Hat

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    If they wanted to shut down all bots, fake likes, and fake followers they could do it today.

    the problem for Instagram is that it then would lose almost all celebrity accounts and large volume accounts and brand accounts, as they all work with a combination of fake followers, fake likes, fake comments, and bots.

    Don't believe me? Go to the main fashion accounts. Look at who likes the posts - you'll see more fake than real accounts. Even worse: major fashion magazines like Vogue: low quality postings that wouldn't attract anybody.

    Companies often don't use Instagram to attract people but to show they are popular - which you can achieve by fake methods.

    So if Instagram shut down all automation and fake actions, it would shrink so much it would likely lose a good deal of its ad business, as they couldn't maintain their rates.


    The question for them is: how to keep the bots and fake traffic that benefits them, and how to shut down the bots and fake traffic that is harmful.

    What would harmful bot traffic be? Fake accounts with low quality content scraped from the web or specific sites. There is a difference between e.g. an artist not being able to work Instagram all the time and have a bot help him to support his great content, and a person who posts nothing of value.

    Those accounts lower the quality for Instagram and threaten their ad revenue. It will also be bad for ad buyers, as ads shown to fake accounts will lower the ad success rate.


    The difficulty for Instagram is to see the difference between good and bad bots. An algorithm cannot tell good from bad quality (maybe this will change with self-learning algorithms aka AI).

    So they need a quantifiable basis to tell the good from the bad.

    For now it's likely the new botting limit - which will not kill a content provider who runs a bot, but reduces the profitability of those who have no interest in content but only run accounts to get numbers.

    The fact that we had so many Instagram shut-downs in the past weeks and that so many accounts got blocked is an indication they are experimenting.
     
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  9. nikosios

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    I definitely agree with some of what you said but don’t you think the final solution for them is binary ? Either blocking all bots/smm or not

    Because Vogue will keep buying likes and followers even if their price will be 3/5/10$ not big deal for them
     
  10. DanielOnYouTube

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    Not 100%, but definitely 99%. It really depends on how human your automation strategy is.
     
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    Well said and hats off :)

    They did it already!
     
  12. Uncle Scrooge

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    Everyone and their dog is using bots. It just "natural" at this point. Even the biggest celebrites on the platform use it, may it be likes, comments or followers. From a business standpoint, IG will lose in the long run catching 100% of all bots etc.
     
  13. VirginiaJames

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    Does this mean that the ability to buy instant likes (can we mention sites on here? Sorry, I'm new to forums in general.) on sites is done. Are there sites that are still working? I am learning the automation techniques and am now going to have to use engagement groups in the meantime. For my accounts, it is more social proof because they get lost in the absolute onslaught of junk content.
     
  14. L4x

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    Imagin i got a mail from a Panel today said „IG LIKES WORK AGAIN“. Then tested, okay looked great verry fery fast, but got partialed 4H after service release. 75 % of the ordered likes didnt work but at the beginning it was ULTRA FAST. Never thought that speed today, but sadly only 75 % of order delivered. Did they run into a like block? When you share big account pools, many users will use, so many likes.

    If i would be a provider i would hold back 80K for a 40K service, to cascade. And build a daily order limit for those accounts. Like when XXX ordered, message „sorry no order for today! Likes are used try tomorrow, -> Refund.“

    We need a private community of developers, smm reselerss, thinkers how to get around that... to stay alive.
     
  15. se900se

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    Why Instagram would want to kill Instagram?
     
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    Who has noticed that Instagram updates every Friday up to Sunday..?
    I analyzed this in the last weeks :D

    Monday to Thursday no problems..
    As of Friday up to Sunday have all panels problems because Instagram is experimenting and updating...:anyway:
     
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    They already have recognized us and they can shut it immediately anytime they want, it's really not rocket science when you think about it.
     
  18. L4x

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    Yes its not. Building a private community with elite users could help, close registrations... Sending private panels...
     
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    Totally. Why do accounts have a follow limit of *more* than 100 per day? No human would ever follow that much people. Let alone EVERY DAY. Who on earth follows 100 people today, 100 tomorrow, 100 the next day, an so on? No one. Period. Perhaps you do on the first week you signed up to catch up with your contacts, but that's it. If they wanted they could swipe 98% of bots. Why they don't do it is beyond me.
     
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    many people do much more, manually, FOR YEARS!