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If I wanted to Create FaceBook - How Much Would it Cost?

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  1. agag2

    agag2 Supreme Member

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    hiw much would it cost to pay a coder to do a job like this for me? (of course it wont be facebook but something simmillar or like myspace) over $500?
     
  2. lordgiap

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    probably over that. =)...
     
  3. Ultraburner

    Ultraburner Junior Member

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    Try www dot socialengine dot net dude.

    Si.
     
  4. DamnTees

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    depends on the team you get and the prices they charge. I would post something at odesk or freelance without a min budget and see what you get
     
  5. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    If you just want to have a facebook type social networking site then you can find many scripts to set up a facebook clone. Some are free and some will cost you. So the answer to what will it cost to set up a website like that the answer is it can be done pretty cheaply.

    If you're wanting to know what it will cost to set up a successful social networking site, then the answer is a LOT more than $500. MySpace was millions of dollars in the red for the first couple years and Facebook dealt in similar financial numbers when it started.

    Finding a script and setting it up on your site is the easy part. Then you have to start finding members. The larger your membership, the higher your server requirements will become. As the site becomes more popular, you'll have to start making additions and modifications to the scripts to keep your members happy. All of that will cost money. To make it worse you'll be entering into a market that is already dominated by the big guys.

    It can definately be done, POF is a good example of the small guy starting his own social networking site without large venture capital. But that type of success is far outnumbered by the failures. If you want to try that niche, you should be prepared that the costs can start scaling up much faster than the profits. You'll need to successfully get the membership growing and keep the site operational during that growth in order to achieve any success with this type of site.
     
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    paincake Power Member

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    You could try using buddypress plugin for wordpress first. If it works out, buy a better product.
     
  7. Anger66

    Anger66 Registered Member

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    To make social network site is not the problem. Problem is to get members. You need to have unique idea, feature to get members.
     
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    The only reason the site got so big is the help from the CIA as it collects so much data. His idea is no better then anyone else's was he was just a lucky dildo that was in the right place at the right time. As you can tell I don't like facebook or mark.
     
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  9. agag2

    agag2 Supreme Member

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    Hi giys thanks MY QUESION IS HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST JUST TO CREATE SUCH A SCRIPT ==> not the costs of promoting myspace didnt cost millions to create - tops thousands maybe promoting it costed alot..
     
  10. GreyWolf

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    Myspace was actually created by inhouse programmers specifically to compete with Friendster. They had the programming and financial resources of an already successful internet marketing company at their disposal. So it wasn't so much a program ordered and delivered but more of an in progress software project. To create the same thing would definately cost thousands to start.

    But you don't need to do that unless you actually have the intention of being the next myspace or facebook. I already said you can search for a facebook clone script and find them anywhere from free to a few hundred bucks. Buy a catchy domain name, get some cheap hosting, and search for a free facebook clone script. You should be able to have a site up and running for less than $25 to $100. Then start working on the hard part which is getting members.

    If you're wanting to setup a social networking site targeted to a small niche then its definately doable. Who knows you might get lucky and have it grow into something big. :cool2:

    So that's the basic answer to your question. You can find them already written for free to a few hundred dollars. Just search google for - facebook clone script - and you'll find many to choose from.
    :cool:


    Since you got me thinking about it though, here's some additional info you might find interesting.

    Your right that it didn't cost millions to create the MySpace code, but it did cost that much to make it succeed. A couple years after startup they were millions of dollars in the red and still not turning a profit. MySpace would have shut down long before it became so valuable, if it hadn't been funded with money made from eUniverse. It didn't become profitable on it's own until the second year when they made an advertising deal with Google.

    After setting up their Friendster clone, DeWolfe, Anderson and the rest of the eUniverse staff and employees set up their first accounts and then went clubbing in L.A. to find and recruit local bands, models, and clubbers from the local L.A., Hollywood and SouthernCalifornia nightlife crowd to set up accounts. Then after they had it looking like a music scene social site they sent join requests out to their eUniverse email lists. eUniverse was one of the largest spam email marketing companies at the time, so they had massive lists to target.During that growth phase the MySpace crew was adding servers as fast as they could and reprogramming their code to handle the growth.

    If you don't know much about eUniverse, it's a company from before CANSPAM. eUniverse ran huge spam marketing campaigns selling cheap crap from china, digital products, and just about anything else they could market online. They're the company that was behind MyFreeCursors.com and the Patriotic American Flag Cursor that loaded spyware made by one of their other companies ResponseBaseMarketing. If MySpace had been created by someone else, you can be assured that the eUniverse guys would have been targeting MySpace along with all the other blackhat marketers, and would be doing the same on FaceBook today. That's one of the things that makes it so funny how anti-spam MySpace acts. Back in 2004 eUniverse recieved the largest fine ever at that time because of the adware, spyware, and spam emailing they had been doing.

    So anyone that thought MySpace was a small time operation that just got lucky is misinformed. It was started by some very successful and experienced internet marketers and programmers that were used to dealing in millions of dollars. DeWolfe, Greenspan, Berman, Anderson and the other original employees were a bunch of blackhatters back before there was much regulation. Anderson even had a few porn affiliate websites before eUniverse became so successful.

    There was a book written about Myspace a couple years ago, kind of like the book about Facebook that's so popular now. But the book wasn't published till after FaceBook was becoming more dominant so it didn't recieve nearly the publicity that the "The Facebook Effect" or "The Accidental Billionaires, A Tale of Sex, Money, Genius and Betrayal" has.

    The MySpace guys didn't get a movie made about them though. Kind of too bad cause it would have been a more interesting movie than "The Social Network".

    Facebook was started by some Harvard ecomomics and computer science majors. Zuckerberg might be young but he has a pretty impressive education background. Prior to starting Facebook he had already created several other successful programs. Facebook was started small just at Harvard, but within months Zuckerberg was looking for funding to expand. Within a year he had raised about $12 million in venture capital and was on his way to California to set up the Facebook we know today.

    Facebook is a very inspiring story, but if you like to read pick up a copy of "Stealing MySpace: The Battle to Control the Most Popular Website in America". The people here on BHW have a lot more in common with the eUniverse guys that started MySpace. :smokin:

    If you're curious how the different Social Networking sites rank as of 12/1/2010, check out this link:
    Top 15 Most Popular Social Networking Websites | December 2010
     
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  11. AutoBlogger

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    Social networking scripts will cost around $300 and quality custom coding will cost over $5K.
     
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    Wow... that was pretty interesting! It's a shame MySpace didn't sell to Yahoo or AOL for $900m just before Facebook became the top dog... that would of been an even better ending! But hey, who can complain about $580m? Bad move on Fox's part in my opinion!
     
  13. GreyWolf

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    Murdoch was actually looking at both MySpace and Facebook. It just had to do with a lot of maneuvering that goes on during business acquisitions that made it turn out as it did. There's a lot more involved than just the actual dollar amount offers you hear about in the news. The Fox deal actually worked out pretty good for the MySpace founders.
    The Yahoo deal was a couple years later and would have been between Fox and Yahoo. MySpace was already losing ground so it really wouldn't have been a good deal for Yahoo.

    You never know though. If MySpace and Yahoo had merged then Yahoo could have replaced the Google advertising on the site, and the combined power of both companies might have givin them an edge over both Facebook and Google. Didn't happen so we'll never know how it would have played.

    It does go to show how things can change though. Anyone that thinks Google is forever, or Facebook is forever needs to keep that in mind. There's always a new guy wanting to climb to the top, and big businesses don't always make the best moves. It's just a matter of when not if. I think we still have a long time to go with google though, but I could definately see Facebook making a mistake sometime that costs them to loose users.

    Maybe agag2 will have his site hopping by then and we'll all jump over to that one. I'm sure he wouldn't mind. Wouldn't that be something. lol.
     
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    $500. Hell. I'll take two!
     
  15. neutralhatter

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    Autoblogger is right.
    Check out boonex dolphin, it's an open source social network template you can use to start from. You will need some technical knowledge though...
    If you have technical knowledge you can find someone cheap, if you don't, then you'll be stuck on companies that can arrange technical people for you.
     
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    Good posts in this thread. GreyWofl as usual dropping the 411!

    I have installed and played with socialengine . net and its seems pretty nice. Loads of solid features and pretty stable

    Getting the script is easy, the hard part is traffic and members. The only way to get any traction is to find a niche and then exploit it for traffic. FB and MS both had original niche audiences. Do the same.

    good luck
     
  17. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    That's a really good point. MySpace started with the L.A. music scene. Facebook started out targeted to the college crowd.

    Pick a good niche and work it. There's thousands of smaller social networking sites targeted to local cities. They'll probably never expand beyond that niche, but some of them get a lot of traffic. The advantage for them is they can be effective for local advertisers.

    Same thing can be done targeting some particular hobby, or similar type niches.

    Sometimes it's better to try becoming a big fish in the smaller pond.
     
  18. webdesign

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    it's the design that will haunt you.

    phpizabi is pretty good to start, it's open source.
    if your looking to shell out, phpfox + custom design is a good choice.
    depends on what you want the site to be, just have a look at the various providers and choose one which suits the features you want.

    +thanks GreyWolf, very intresting.
     
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  19. Alexd10

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    It depends who you go with, a professional coder = anything over $5k. A copy = a couple of hundred
     
  20. agag2

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    Wow greywolf! Amazing info-thanx! 2 quick quesions
    1) Regarding FB clone- dosent facebook own the concept/idea - wouldnt they be able to take legal action against me (of course when the site gets "big")

    2)there are probaly MANY of these websites up w that SPECIFIC script - so being that my site wont be unique why would they join my site over a competitor- dont u need a unique site "+" MARKETING?

    Again thanks for your AMAZING help