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If I use SB to spam 1000 blogs per day, will Akismet ban me?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by krzysiekz, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Hi,

    Pertaining to another thread I opened recently (but it would not fit in that context) I have another question:

    If I am going to be making back links in the order of about 500-1000 blog comments per DAY, how can I avoid akismet banning my URL's ?

    I will have a decent supply of private proxies, I guess a couple proxies per each URL would be sufficient?

    What other methods can I use not to get banned?

    What if I am promoting, lets say, 20 different websites and drop all of those URL's into comments, and I spam 1000 blogs for each of those URL's.

    The blogs would all be the same 1000, and each of them getting spammed with my 20 different URL's. Will akismet block all the URL's since eventually the proxies will run out and it will use the same one again?
     
  2. realgreeny1232

    realgreeny1232 Regular Member

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    I blast 100k WPblogs daily with my 1 URL, never had a problem with akisment
     
  3. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    WoW, 100K ... how do you get such a database...

    How many proxies do you use?

    How many different comments do you have? (how many actual different comments)
     
  4. namewithnogaps

    namewithnogaps Junior Member

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    i got 75 spun comments

    currently have a database of 30mln wordpress blogs :)

    blast around 100k per day with 10 sites. no probs

    free proxies
     
  5. tekman

    tekman Newbie

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    how much money does this make you? Do you use free web 2.0 properties or just blast direct to your sites?
     
  6. kobra

    kobra Registered Member

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    You must be a lucky guy? I have had my sites blacklisted with just few dozen comments!
     
  7. krocks

    krocks Registered Member

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    and how many of them stick?
    and wwhats your success rate like?..while using the free proxies..and it'll be extremely slow i guess if you use just free proxies.
     
  8. MaxTucker

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    He is not lucky, he just puts some thought into his work and does the job right. I do a few different things that help a lot with making your comments stick and not getting you banned. With a few simple (and yes initially time consuming) tricks you can have 90% of your backlinks stick and not be banned by akismet.

    I brought Scrapebox roughly 3 weeks ago.

    Day 1 - Blasted the hell out of 10k blogs with open proxies, unspun comments and around 20 stuck. My
    Day 4 - Blasted the hell out of 10k blogs with spun comments, private proxies and a good 20% stuck.
    Day 9 - Blasted the hell out of 10k blogs with spun comments, only girls names in my name list, private proxies and 30% stuck.
    Day 14 - Blasted the hell out of 10k blogs with sever different spun comments, only girls names, private proxies and at this point I implemented a few cool tricks and what do you know 70% stuck!

    It is simply a matter of thinking things through. Ask yourself, if you own a WP blog, what distinguishes a good comment from a spammy one? It is so much more than the comment itself, you take into account the name, email and a few other things.
     
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  9. beolion

    beolion Junior Member

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    Are you sure Akismet didn't banned your site? Have you checked to see? If the submission is succesful does't mean your site isn't banned.

    I think 1-10 daily comments marked as spam from those 100 K daily comments are enough to ban your site.

    My site was banned and I commented manually, verified all sites, all comments, page by page (used anchors as names).

    Nofollow commenting without anchors is 51% waste of time in my opinion.
     
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  10. MaxTucker

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    Using anchor text as names is a dead give away that the comment is spam. Why would somebody put his name down as 'Remove Pimple Scars'? The trick is to find tens of thousands of blogs which are do follow and submit comments with no spammy anchor text and a real name instead.

    I only ever post comments with spammy anchor text to auto-approve blogs.
     
  11. Viltedali

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    I think he is VERY LUCKY or not telling the truth - that is, if he's posting to blogs that moderate comments.

    You can have the best, most relative comment on the post, but if the site owner marks your comment as spam, you're screwed with akismet, at least in my experience.

    I've manually posted a few relevant comments (after reading the blog posts), one must have been marked as spam by the site owner, and then my comments weren't even accepted for moderation after that. I started seeing the blank white screen after posting on more blogs, when mentioning my site, even in the comment and not as the link back.

    I'm no pro blog comment poster, but it is still this way up to now, at least as far as mentioning my one site in any blog comment.

    Apparently, you can request that akismet remove your site from the spam list, but have never tried it and it probably isn't worth it anyway, as all it takes is a lazy webmaster who bulk marks all comments as spam without bothering to look at them.
     
  12. realgreeny1232

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    I've only had 1 complaint with a .edu blog that I put my software on and didn't realize it went crazy on the blog. It posted 42 times in 2 seconds lol Other than that I have been posting 100k autocomments daily and about 50k profile links from xrumer. I bought a list of 78 million links from a russian so I have 5 years before I actually get done cleaning that list. It's not hard to build up 100k wpblogs and that isnt including my wpengine blogs I've been working on.
     
  13. MaxTucker

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    The point is to use your imagination and look beyond the content of the actual comment. The comment is unimportant. Just put something in like...

    'Hey I am trying to read your post from my iphone but the words in the post are covered by the sidebar boxes. Is this site iphone compatible?'

    Thats a variation of one of the comments I use. Get somebody with great grammar to make sure your comment is properly written.

    If this comment comes from some dude called 'Xalias Pankuku' and the email is '983fqmnhne3k@yahoo.com' it will likely be marked as spam.

    If the comment comes from 'Stacy Anderson' and the email for Stacy is 'fairytwinkles86@yahoo.com.au' you are much more likely to get accepted. My main trick is to use non spammy female email addresses and female names. Female names are more likely to get accepted. Also use white names, foreign names do not work as well. All I did was google 'most common u.s. surnames' and got a nice big list.

    Even better you can do 'Lauryn Simpson' with the email 'laurys@mit.edu'. This works well because you appear to have an mit email and they assume you're a student at some prestigious university. It works even better the email matches your name. So 'Lauryn Simpson' matches 'laurys@mit.edu'.

    The problem with this technique is that when you add multiple names the email and name wont match up. Well you can make them match like this.

    Laurie Simpson laurie_s@mit.edu
    Lauryn Sanders LaurieS@berkeley.edu
    Lauren Sampson laurie_s@harvard.edu
    Laurie Sanderson LaurieS@princeton.edu
    list can go on and on and on......

    There is one other technique I use that improves success rates and spam complaints a lot but I won't share it now as I do not want every spammer and his son to start using it.
     
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  14. iseegreen

    iseegreen Power Member

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    seriously your kidding yourself if you think those things make a difference

    I have tonnes of blogs and akismet picks up those comments as spam all day everyday

    the handful of comments that get through I mark as spam anyway because they arent laser targeted to my site - and they are Sbox comments

    got quite a few pr2 type blogs so they are targetted everyday.
     
  15. MaxTucker

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    The proof is in the stats, most of my comments stick, so I am not kidding myself whereas two weeks ago with my first attempt only a few stuck.

    It doesn't matter if me or you can spot and delete them. You're a blackhatter and you can spot spam a mile off, as can I. I have a pr4 blog that is targeted relentlessly and no spam comments get through. This is because I know exactly what to look for.

    However, 99% of people are not blackhatters and don't know shit about SB. It works almost flawlessly on them.

    Honestly, your comment is a little daft. It is like a professional conman saying 'oh than con won't work because I can see it coming'. The pro conman might see it coming but the little old lady the conmen are swindling sure wont.

    Akismet probably picks them up as spam because they are using the same URL they have spammed 1 million times over.

    Anyway, you keep telling yourself it doesn't work and I will keep reaping the benefits.
     
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    iseegreen Power Member

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    "most of my comments stick"


    post some proof - cause this is BS

    thanks
     
  17. MaxTucker

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    Short of giving away my URLs and my other secrets, what proof could I possibly post?

    Either way, I was just trying to help, no reason for me to sit here and talk shit. You don't like it, don't use it.

    It is just common sense really, spammy anchor text, spammy names, spammy emails and spammy comments get you markes as spam. Use proper names and proper emails and you're success rate improves.
     
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  18. beolion

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    Do you see some results in your rankings using names instead of anchors?
     
  19. MaxTucker

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    To be honest it is hard to tell because I also create forum profiles and use other link building techniques. However, it would seem that my ranking improves with the name as my anchor. I will certainly need to do some more testing.
     
  20. pisco

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    Just some quick questions, when you are akismet banned, does SB tell you that you had a sucessfull post ? And how do you know your comment was banned ?