if I bought decent BL would my dead website SERP improved or start new one.

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Hi all, I have this wide niche I work on for years, I know every single details of it, and what are competitive KW's and what KW's theoretically should rank of even with free web 2.0 blog.
Anyway, in recent years ( ~last 5 Yrs) , I notice G treat new websites that trying to rank on that niche like sht, plz don't I ask me why but I got to this conclusion form experience, every year I made 2-3 domain and see how they will rank, my best one reached only ~300UV/day (that niche 1Mil visitors/day are possible ).
OK, lets get into subject last site I have aren't ranking at all on any KWs I targeted, even for very easy KW G ranks spammy/auto-generated websites before it, even If I searched for the exact article title, still on 9+ position, other KW i'm on 60+ SERP .
I'm thinking to take my chances and buy new strong BL for, but I'm caution this could be another wasting of money and effort on something that impossible .
 

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It could help.

However, search engines are all about content / intent / context these days. If these are not addressed properly you're screwed.
 

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It could help.

However, search engines are all about content / intent / context these days. If these are not addressed properly you're screwed.
Believe me my websites are all well optimize internally, I can say that G search engine are well underrating my contents, I can't figure out why, except weak BL profile .
BTW my website is not in English, and I really, which if you could, understand it language, and make comparison, between my writing and the crap that G ranks above it
 

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Believe me my websites are all well optimize internally, I can say that G search engine are well underrating my contents, I can't figure out why, except weak BL profile .
BTW my website is not in English, and I really, which if you could, understand it language, and make comparison, between my writing and the crap that G ranks above it
Yes, low authority can do that.

About content... sometimes garbage for humans is better understood and processed by bots so they might actually be at an advantage there. Some of these latest algorithm updates are content oriented and global but I think only English language is at the top of the game. Rest are unable to understand context/intent and overall proper.
 

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What you’re looking for is searcher intent.

What is the user looking to find with those keywords? Answer that question and any other related question with your content. That’s your first step.

Your next step is to assess your competition and compare their site metrics with your own.
 

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About content... sometimes garbage for humans is better understood and processed by bots so they might actually be at an advantage there.
I did once test scrapped contents I put it on .pw domain and G completely ignored that site ( never get indexed for a year )
Your next step is to assess your competition and compare their site metrics with your own.
I had Ahrefs reports for ~60 completions domains, I found many uses web 2.0 auto generated blogs, I don't know how they get it index but defiantly helped get them ranked, + some guest post, paid link from famous websites
Anyway I got this feeling that G manually monitor that niche, due to number of competitors, and many, negative SEO/reports happened in the past, which sure will drive G spam team attention (considering it the most spammy niche ) , some website who suddenly dominated all major KW's (on that niche) G never change their position for years, other websites are competing on position 4 and up.
Before this policy change (on G side) I could rank 1st on very competitive KW (that had 30K+ monthly search) , in about week,
Look how things changed now, I can't compete on 10/Monthly search KW's, and even on any Long Tail KW, G will put these (Authority domains they manually chose) on closest title broad KW, they have, and not ranking my site at all.
OK I forget to mention this, some of G spam team (on the language I work on) had their own websites competing on the ranking, i'm not saying all but some I think were chosen on weird way (I think this due to language barrier between G head team (who speaks English mostly) and the way the chose their trusted mangers) , since I/we live in ( 3rd world countries ) dishonest and playing under the table aren't that strange,
e.g having scenario where G local language team member, down rank/penalize ever single competitors to his own website to make his site ranked first on every major KW ( on that wide niche ) will guarantee from him very high income (over what G give to him) .
 
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I did once test scrapped contents I put it on .pw domain and G completely ignored that site ( never get indexed for a year )
Scraped content as in duplicate?

That's not low quality that's just plagiarism.

Are they using content like that?
 

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Are they using content like that?
It was Flash games script/plugin that grabbed games titles/files for you, I use it only once, on newly registered domain hat's it.
That's not low quality that's just plagiarism.
Sir, I already told you, sites that outranking my site are (contents grabbed sites) , they literally stole contents from other blogs/forums and slap it into punch of ".ru" domains and G reward them very well.
 

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Sir, I already told you, sites that outranking my site are (contents grabbed sites) , they literally stole contents from other blogs/forums and slap it into punch of ".ru" domains and G reward them very well.
Then it probably comes down to authority.

Only trusted authority sites can get away with stuff like this.

Or blackhat ones for a short time. But I don't think that's the case here.
 

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Only trusted authority sites can get away with stuff like this.

Or blackhat ones for a short time. But I don't think that's the case here.
How G can trust contents grabbed sites? In fact, majority websites in my Language/region are black hats, one exception is local gov website and official newspapers, and these mostly don't even do white hat SEO, and for my niche, it had on going 15 Yrs old battle between sites owners, sadly some are doing every dirty job to take down competition, which effected me too,
 

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How G can trust contents grabbed sites? In fact, majority websites in my Language/region are black hats, one exception is local gov website and official newspapers, and these mostly don't even do white hat SEO, and for my niche, it had on going 15 Yrs old battle between sites owners, sadly some are doing every dirty job to take down competition, which effected me too,
There are SERPs like that. It's mind boggling but they do exist and there is quite a lot of them.

Location, language, niche and overall state of the local datacenter. Not all updates are global. Some counties are way behind and crazy things can be done.
 

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Some counties are way behind and crazy things can be done.
It's dependence on G spam team on that region, I was very success on one foreign language,it was simple translation from Eng, i toke contents from Yahoo answers and made title of the question and manually put the contents, from ~40 articles only 2 ranked, but new G updates come and completely erase it from the SERP, anyway using different/foreign language worth to try .
 

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It's dependence on G spam team on that region, I was very success on one foreign language,it was simple translation from Eng, i toke contents from Yahoo answers and made title of the question and manually put the contents, from ~40 articles only 2 ranked, but new G updates come and completely erase it from the SERP, anyway using different/foreign language worth to try .
True, available workforce is also a factor.

But even without it, you can clearly tell algorithm doesn't work the same outside English queries. Our link clients over-optimize their anchor text all the time and get away with it. :)
 

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Hi all, I have this wide niche I work on for years, I know every single details of it, and what are competitive KW's and what KW's theoretically should rank of even with free web 2.0 blog.
Anyway, in recent years ( ~last 5 Yrs) , I notice G treat new websites that trying to rank on that niche like sht, plz don't I ask me why but I got to this conclusion form experience, every year I made 2-3 domain and see how they will rank, my best one reached only ~300UV/day (that niche 1Mil visitors/day are possible ).
OK, lets get into subject last site I have aren't ranking at all on any KWs I targeted, even for very easy KW G ranks spammy/auto-generated websites before it, even If I searched for the exact article title, still on 9+ position, other KW i'm on 60+ SERP .
I'm thinking to take my chances and buy new strong BL for, but I'm caution this could be another wasting of money and effort on something that impossible .
how long did the 300UV site take to receive this traffic? is it under a year old?

one year mark allows for much more significant growth assuming you have the content to grab the queries.

Also i would caution against buying links unless you have the traffic to justify them.
 

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how long did the 300UV site take to receive this traffic? is it under a year old?
OK that was experience I did in ~2015 maybe 2016, that site take over 3 months to bring me 300UV, and G threw visitors on me for LTKWS only no major KW ranking.
On that period, G were given new sites space to breath, e.g. if you are aiming for 30k (if you reach the top of SERP) G will throw to you 100 maybe 300 or less than 1000UV/day at best case.
On 2016 onward, G did something very fishy, specially for that niche, I don't know if it was Algorithm manual tweaking, but due to previous war between competitors (I count at least 100 WM), G got their focus on that niche considering it spammy as hell,
They change the Algorithm in way I can't revers it, all SEO lesson, my own experience got wasted, it was my experience only but, many SEO expert I personally know, their site got very hard hit in leas than a year, you want to ask me how I know, because aster my sites destroyed I work as writer to one of them, he was targeting similar KW's I was targeting, article I wrote (with others), considered very high quality, and G threw his site on 4th-6h page even for long tail KWs, but I notice his other articles (related to other niche ), were ranking very well, at least for a year
 
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