If covid vaccines' 'mrna technology has been used since the 90s' then why has it never been approved until this emergency usage now?

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Just an FYI, almost 60% of population in Spain is fully vaccinated, almost 70% already got their first dose. You kind of just proved the point that vaccination does work.
Because there are so many elderly people here, young people go to big cities. People are watching tv here all the time, gossiping, etc. Spanish mentality is different. They don't want trouble cause they are lazy to look for answers or question authorities.
People get vaccine to not mind it anymore cause they are tired and want to go be with people.
When the quarantine started i went through countries from Spain to France, stayed there a while and then Lithuania. No vaccines then and everything looked the same. People were dying like crazy, but no one was crying out that it was from covid. We lost a family member to heart condition, medics wrote down it was from covid... even tho they ran the test 3 times and it was negative. I myself had symptoms when i went last year to UK, test came back negative. Been in lockdown in UK for a year, Luton to be exact. Nobody wearing masks and no vaccine at that time yet. Later on people got scared or had to do it because of their work.
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Just an FYI, almost 60% of population in Spain is fully vaccinated, almost 70% already got their first dose. You kind of just proved the point that vaccination does work.
these are made up statistics. most countries have under 5-10% of people vaccinated(official, not MSM statistics), and that's now, when everyone who wanted a dose got one. so, atleast 80% in all countries are unvaccinated and will continue to be.
 

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I am going to guess you are Lithuanian too :D other people wouldn't watch lithuanian TV.
Run from there, your english is good and if you work online you have no problems to move around.
I am in south of Spain, economy is shit cause there is no tourists. You can see people not caring about distancing and everything looks just fine. I mean no one is crying about the virus or lost relatives (as they show extreme numbers of deaths on tv)... also hospitals seem fine. It makes you question everything.
Yeah, Lithuanian :D I'm tired of running, I'm going to stay here, I tried living in the UK for a while but it's not the same... I guess I'll move to the village and work remotely. But I also believe everything will be good, it might take some time but I can see a bright future.

Though it's sad to see that people are so divided. I think what matters the most is that people shouldn't be forced to take the jab. Some might say it's for others but let's be real it's not for others, people are doing this for themselves...
 

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Something like this told me all my friends in 2010, when I said that the 2008 financial crisis was still so-so, but in 2020 - 2021 (I'm sure you know what the cyclical nature of crises in one decade is.) they will come up with something that will be hundreds of times worse to kill the world economy, force offline stores will be closed, etc. I really couldn’t even think that this would be done under the guise of vaccination. Well, who knows how economy works and understands why everyone was put on self-isolation, then they will understand me ;)

The financial crisis is real.

It has nothing to do with all the crazy ass motherfucking schizo bullshit being spilled about vaccines.

Vaccines save lives. They have zero to do with the upcoming financial crash (yes it's coming).
 

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The financial crisis is real.

It has nothing to do with all the crazy ass motherfucking schizo bullshit being spilled about vaccines.

Vaccines save lives. They have zero to do with the upcoming financial crash (yes it's coming).
How many years do you think we have left? :D
What type of food should I start collecting?
 

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How many years do you think we have left? :D
What type of food should I start collecting?

Before the financial crash? Months, not years.

No need to stock food, it won't help you at all. It'd hold you up a few weeks at most. In order to survive long you need sustainable food from your own produce and off-grid energy.

No I don't have any of that. I'd be fucked if Mad Max happens.

The solution to the next financial crisis must limit the central banks capacity to print money. Something like Bitcoin, with algorithmic money printing control where politicians can't order someone print trillions of dollars to attempt reelection.
 

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Before the financial crash? Months, not years.

No need to stock food, it won't help you at all. It'd hold you up a few weeks at most. In order to survive long you need sustainable food from your own produce and off-grid energy.

No I don't have any of that. I'd be fucked if Mad Max happens.

The solution to the next financial crisis must limit the central banks capacity to print money. Something like Bitcoin, with algorithmic money printing control where politicians can't order someone print trillions of dollars to attempt reelection.
So 2022 and we're all gone? But why do you say "if Mad Max happens"? It's not the matter of if, it's the matter of how and when.
 

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So 2022 and we're all gone? But why do you say "if Mad Max happens"? It's not the matter of if, it's the matter of how and when.

Is this your first financial crash? We hopefully won't die in it. Just means tough times ahead.

Everyone should cut their debt and save up some $ cuz shit's about to get ugly.
 

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Is this your first financial crash? We hopefully won't die in it. Just means tough times ahead.

Everyone should cut their debt and save up some $ cuz shit's about to get ugly.
Yes. This is my first one. But I thought this one is going to be the hardest ever since 2000 years, friends told me. Like cold war or something.
 

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Did you watched this video?! Because it says something quite different that what you are claiming to say.
That is exactly what he said, don't try to spin it. Editor-in-chief of Bild publicly apologised for the fear mongering and propaganda of the "virus", specifically to children who were told that "they were going to murder their grandma". Watch the video.
 
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I have seen some videos of people saying this in an effort to support the safety of this new tech in the vaccines saying that it is nothing new. However it does the opposite for me because if it has been studied for so long and never been released in actual medicines until this emergency usage this makes me ask why?

3 decades of supposed testing and still it wasn't released in any medicine until this emergency usage, so what was wrong with it all that time before? There must have been safety concerns to not use it in all that time and now suddenly it is being used?

Those have been used in chickens and lately in human MORONS.
 

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So far during this pandemic I learned that media is a huge propaganda machine.

I also learned that science has become like a religion. You can not question it, you can not have any doubts about it.... In science you're supposed to ask questions.
Putting labels on people have became very popular. It's easy to discredit other opinion when you do this. It's old and very popular tactic, it was very popular in communist countries.

Also, I'm wondering since when government became interested in well being of their people? You know how they like to say, never make good crisis go to waste.
Why government is pushing global Covid passport? Yes, never make good crisis go to waste... They want to control people even more. If you can't see this then you're blind.

Since when huge pharma corporations became our saviours? It's business, business is here to make profit. They're well know for their shady practices, companies like Pfizer, Moderna, J&J
have paid huge fines for their shady tactics.

Why media is not talking about this? Simple, just turn on the news and check if that channel has
any ads that are run by Pfizer or any other company. It doesn't necessary need to be Covid shot ad, it can be any other product made by that company. What does it mean? It mean if you're paying money for running ads on that channel, this channel shouldn't talk bad about you. It's just advertising, it's just business...


People are dying after taking jabs, and that's a fact. On what scale it's going on we don't really know... Do these jabs work? I believe in some way they do work, and might help people but there's a twist.


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I agree with you and I actually wrote a sarcastic post here a few weeks ago "wow i love the government they care about my health so much"
the government dont give a FUCK about you. it's pretty suspicious they keep pushing the vaccine. every article on the internet is about the vaccine and how it works even on delta! and alpha! and zeta! and omega! in a normal setting, government would say if you want to get the vaccine, come pay us $400+tax. if you dont have $400 then go die. we dont care.
I am not saying the vaccine doesn't work, but they are not being completely honest about it. they are not telling you about that woman that took it and now half her body is paralyzed, or that man who took it and now he has a speech impediment.
No I am not anti-science, yes I believe in science but when you pay a journalist to write bullshit that's not science.
 

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That is exactly what he said, don't try to spin it. Editor-in-chief of Bild publicly apologised for the fear mongering and propaganda of the "virus", specifically to children who were told that "they were going to murder their grandma". Watch the video.
I watch it. He did NOT said that the Covid doesn't exist, he did NOT said that is not dangerous, he did NOT said that doesn't kill people. What he apologized for was scaring the kids, and making them paying the price of lockdowns, which is something I agree with. But this is quite different than what you are claiming he said which is "German newspaper "Bild" publicly apologised for lying to the public about the whole "pandemic":.
 

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I watch it. He did NOT said that the Covid doesn't exist, he did NOT said that is not dangerous, he did NOT said that doesn't kill people. What he apologized for was scaring the kids, and making them paying the price of lockdowns, which is something I agree with. But this is quite different than what you are claiming he said which is "German newspaper "Bild" publicly apologised for lying to the public about the whole "pandemic":.
So dangerous., 99.97% survival rate. This whole plandemic is a joke and the "great reset" is failing. People finally don't trust anything coming out of these snakes.
 

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So dangerous., 99.97% survival rate. This whole plandemic is a joke and the "great reset" is failing. People finally don't trust anything coming out of these snakes.
You do not understand numbers, do you? 0.03% is terribly awful kill rate for such high contagious disease.
Normal death rate from all causes (sickness, natural disasters, age, accidents etc) its around 0.08% per year. Covid 0.03% is close to fucking 40% increase of that. Its like 40% MORE people to die than otherwise. And this is joke for you?
 
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