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[Idea - Help] Moving to the USA

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by r00t, May 2, 2009.

  1. r00t

    r00t Regular Member

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    Heya,

    I'm going straight to the point. I'd really like to move out of my country.
    I've always wanted to study, live and work abroad, especially USA or Japan.

    An year ago I had an opportunity to study in Japan for 1 full year, with all the expenses paid: travell, school fees, accomodation, etc., however I couldn't take advantage of it, since it started right when I had my national exams, which can grant me access to the college. I was really upset about it when I found out, because I had even take a japanese course at one college, when I was in high school, so I could have some basis, but I'm already through it. Besides, I'm always excited to learn new stuff, and I really like Japan.

    Anyway, I feel kinda trapped in Portugal. It's a rather small country, with only 10 million people, and I don't feel very comfortable in it.

    I'm currently 18 and I'm on the first year of an IT course, at the best engineering college in the country. It has a very good foundation, and has many partnerships with international college, and IT institutes, such as the almighty MIT.

    I was going to try to apply for the MIT, before applying to my current college, since my grades were good, and I was prepared for the SAT, however, the college fees there were rather high..

    However, lately I've been lacking motivation to carry on with the studies. I feel like I'm missing something..
    I'm pretty sure I'd be much more motivated studying abroad than in my own country.

    Plus, lately I've started to earn a stable income online, which I'm happy about. But, whether you want to acknowledge it, or not, the americans have it a bit easier on the IM field. Sometimes, some resources are easier to get for the americans, than the non-US.

    Well, but that's not the main point of my post (which is rather long by now).
    As I stated before, I've always wanted to come to the USA and continue my studies there, having a part time job, and working online.

    I'm pretty confident with my english skills (I know they aren't perfect, but I can handle the language well, at least I think), but if it were necessary I could take an advance, masters, whatever, course in English.
    And I've always aspired for more! I'm not interely happy with what I have, wanting more and more, diversifying as much as possible.

    I would like to move to an active and full of energy city, like NY. I mean, the USA is still the land of opportunities! Besides, I'm still very young, I have a full life in front of me.

    What states/cities would you recommend me? What about colleges? Workplaces? Places to rent? Fill me with information, of any kind! (as long as it's important lol tell me about the strip clubs later lool nah, just kidding =p)

    Sorry about the long thread (and any errors it may contain, I didn't proofread it) but I guess the most information I would give, better the answers would be!

    Thanks!
     
  2. r00t

    r00t Regular Member

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    So, no comments on it? : p
     
  3. av8sean

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    Why not take a 2 week vacation and visit some different cities? The USA is huge, the cities and states are about as diverse as all of Europe.

    Btw... my vote for best city is San Diego, UCSD has a good comp sci program as well.
     
  4. GrotesqueGoddess

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    I'm partial to Chicago. :) I was born and raised there. It's amazing... as long as you stay in the right parts.
     
  5. DrJekyll

    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

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    It would depend on what money you would have to live on, some cities are expencive, some are not
     
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    By FAR my favorite pizza ever was in Chicago! Hope to get back soon for more :)
     
  7. GrotesqueGoddess

    GrotesqueGoddess Newbie

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    Chicago style pizza, YES! There is nothing quite like a Chicago style hot dog either.
     
  8. DrJekyll

    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

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    True,

    depends where you are, i am in a non tolerant foriegner area. [and my wife is Philipina] If you go to dc, or nyc you will find people understand you better, and are more acceptive.

    But those 2 places I mentioned can be expensive to live on a budget
     
  9. YoungGuns

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    I would strongly advise staying out of anywhere in North America no matter how much money you have. Australia and New Zealand might be pretty safe places to go, although I'm not experts on them. Some parts of South America may also be good if you can speak fluent Spanish, but there's definitely some places to avoid.

    Our (The U.S.) economy is going down the tubes. The government is literally demanding the banks to make up numbers to make it not look so bad. We are going to have more stock market crash(es) due to this. Our dollar is due to collapse in the next few months or years. Our water has the same chemicals in it as rat poison.

    HOWEVER, America is actually a great place far as the actual land, (some) cities, and (some) people. We have about every climate imaginable. However, the powers that be decides they have to ruin america by starting wars, ruining other countries under the american name, etc. Far as the actual everyday person, though, we're pretty good I think, although I've never been anywhere to compare. There is definitely areas that do not tolerate "those dang foreigners" very well, including probably my area, but what I've noticed at my high school is that they actually get a lot of attention.
     
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  10. DrJekyll

    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

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    visit for a while, get a corp set up, bank account, and then go wherever you want. [if you can get the right visa to do this] and have the same benefits as living here.

    When I spent 7 months in the Philippines, I had checks sent direct to my bank and they deposited them for me. I went to atm and no problems. You should be able to set up the same here, or get a service to do it.
     
  11. wowhaxor

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    I've traveled to nearly every state and there are some beautiful places and cool people everywhere in the US. Personally I'm partial to Canada but no longer allowed to enter it, if you come to the US I recommend you check out northern california/oregon coast and I also really like the great lakes area (wisconsin and northern illinois especially). I am born in Alaska and it is for sure my favorite but not for everyone. The US has a lot of different cultures and climates depending on where you go, a trip may be in order before you make long term plans.
     
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    Vegas is a very cheap city to live in and by far the most fun lol
     
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    Miami Florida is one of the best places in this country.....beach, nice weather, cool people, n lots of celebrities.......youd love it
     
  14. r00t

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    Thanks for all your input!

    Actually I live in a safe country and the college education is top notch, no questions asked on that matter. But we're also facing a huge economic crisis! The unemployment rate last year was 8%, and is increasing a lot. Everyday the crisis spread to more areas.

    I'm not really into other european countries, to be honest. I'd like a different lifestyle than the one I'm used to have here. I was thinking about a big city, like NY, or such.

    Like some of you suggested I may take a trip around US.
    So, what states and cities would you recommend?

    Chicago, NY, DC , Sandiego.
    Maybe I could plan staying there a couple of months and get to know several places, and have a taste of how each one is :)

    Once again,
    Thanks
     
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    I'm moving USA becauase I cant stand the british government, and there is no way I am going pay 50% tax on money I take the risks to earn.

    Just so long as I am near a Red Robin i will be fine!!!!!!!!
     
  16. davejug1

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    Won't be long before the US follows suit.

    Anyway to the OP, can't believe you would want to leave such a beautiful country! Personally the Algarve is one place I would love to live, don't let the issue of unemployment sway you because the US is badly affected by it too, if you are earning enough online then your Euro will go a lot further than the dolar goes. I think you need to start looking first at the legalities surrounding US immigration, whether you are a suitable candidate. I'm sure with US citizens losing jobs left, right and centre, the immigation criteria is tightening and it will be difficult, especially if your only source of income is through IM (still considered a risky job despite the millions in savings)
     
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    im moving this June too in NY upstate
    im looking for a cheap place to stay in there
    maybe a room i dont have a budget;(
     
  18. ooodaveb

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    Moving to the US at 18 is not as easy as you think. You can get here on a student visa but that does not allow employment. You can only work 20 hrs a week in your school if they hire you. You cant get a SSN with a student visa, unless you get the said 20 hour job.

    Getting a work visa (H1B) is out of the questions because you do not have a Bachelors degree. Plus they only issue 65k H1Bs a year and need employer sponsorship. In this economy no one will sponsor you as they can find workers who need no sponsorship easily.

    I would recommend reading the USCIS website and make sure you're following the legal requirements. It would suck to be deported and barred for 10 years.
     
  19. leannec08

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    I lived in the US for most of my life (California and Arizona). There are inexpensive places to live in Cali, but I'd recommend that you look for employment online beforehand. If you want, I can probably hook you up with a sales job where they don't care where you're living. If sales isn't your thing the job situation will be difficult (unless you're willing to do admin or something). But if you're planning on living on your IM earnings then just make sure you have proof of earnings and money set aside so that you can rent a place.

    I moved to the Bay Area at like 19-20 and had the time of my life. You can live inexpensively in San Jose, Fremont, Dublin and it's a quick car ride or BART trip into the city.... The S. and E. Bay are all fun. Personally, I love Berkley and Great America (theme park) is right there... plus you have San Francisco right there... SF is my second favorite city of all the ones I've been too (Auckland NZ being the #1... but that's really just because it's a bigger version of SF hehe). It's a more chill version of LA. The night life is so much fun and there are plenty of colleges to choose from.

    But honestly, the US is not somewhere you want to be right now. You might look into other western culture countries like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand... Personally, I'm in love with NZ and the only reason why I would go back to the US would be to visit old haunts... There are plenty of ways to work IM outside of the US... Sure it might cost you a few extra bucks to get a US phone # on skype and a US IP addy, but the States are going through some rough times. I personally won't even visit until things calm down again and the economy stabilizes.

    But if you do want more info on Cali I can point you in the right direction... Just PM me w/ any questions :)
     
  20. farfetchedmoney

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    I'd like to renounce my US citizenship sorta...the only thing is I love certain type of american women and a certain type of lifestyle...thats the only thing i'd miss about america!!!!! BTW: I've never known california to be inexpensive...I guess if your needs are minimal then go for it.