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I Won a Friends & Family Paypal Dispute?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by IGKing, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. IGKing

    IGKing Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It's possible. I guess.

    I got scammed a couple weeks back. The seller and (trusted) middleman worked together, and once I sent the payment they both ditched me.

    I filed a claim, and PayPal sent me this back:

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    Anyone ever experience this? Does your credit later get debited?
     
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  2. purplewhale

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    I've never experienced this specific scenario before.

    It is definitely possible to refund a friends and family payment, you just have to speak with the right people on the phone.

    You have got you money, and your claim won't be denied.
     
  3. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I've experienced this with Chase, but not with PayPal.

    Five years ago I went to this gas station in "da hood". I was running late to work because some gangster siphoned the gas out of my tank when my debit card fell out of my pocket because of a hole I didn't notice. When I got to work, I received a call from Chase to call them back immediately about suspicious activity on my account. Turns out some hood rat found my card and filled up the gas tanks of at least 15 cars.

    It clearly wasn't me who did it, so they issued my provisional credit while they investigated. I think I got a call from them a couple of weeks later at work again and I was found to not be at fault, so I was allowed to keep the money.

    In other words, you haven't won the dispute, they're just compensating you until it gets resolved, in which case you'll either keep the money or they'll take it back (unless it works differently with PayPal for some reason).
     
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  4. IGKing

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    Interesting. Hopefully I get to keep it. Thanks for your insight @Zwielicht.
     
  5. mixing

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    I've had to get a provisional credit from PayPal before. Although, it was under different circumstances. About 4 months ago I went to a Chase ATM and tried to do a withdraw using my PayPal debit card. Needless to say, the ATM messed up and never gave me the money, but my PayPal account was debited. I called PayPal and they issued a provisional credit to give me the money back while they contacted Chase and investigated..etc. Keep in mind (and they made this clear over the phone) a provisional credit is just that - provisional. It can be taken away if they have found the issue to be your fault.

    In my situation they told me they would contact Chase and I shouldn't need to hear from them again. If anything were to happen they would email me. I never heard anything and the credit never went away. So, I'm guessing they were able to contact Chase and figure out the issue. They told me over the phone the process normally takes about 2 weeks.

    The way this looks, they issued the provisional credit while doing further investigation. I don't know all the specifics (notes/messages..etc) and I'm sure PayPal will be reviewing all of that. I wouldn't say you "Won" just yet. Wait until the provisional period is over and if you still have the money, then you won.
     
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    In the resolutions center, they said they were waiting 10 days to hear back from the other party... Last I checked, the other party never responded.
     
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    How long has it been? My guess would be if they don't respond by the 10th day, this will probably be a fairly easy win for you. If they haven't responded in several days then there is a good chance they won't.
     
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    Over 10 days.
     
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    Always nice when the scammer tries to scam, but loses. lol :)
     
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    Your money is released after 10 days from them trying to contact other party if they dont ansaw you win anyway paypal rules ....

    What happen you made a dispute they got to look at the dispute under there money guarentee , they ask you what happen you filled a case in ,the case was looked at and they wrote to the other party, and the other partie was given 10 days to reply , know you Recevied a pre payment from your story belief afther the 10 days , the only way it get taken away if the other party dispute it , they got 50 odd days to do so .....
     
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