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I will make it in the music industry by next year.

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by NagacomesforU, Aug 28, 2016.

  1. NagacomesforU

    NagacomesforU Regular Member

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    Hi all! Something a little different.

    Little background:
    I am from the Netherlands, Europe.
    Some of you may know me from replies I left on a couple of threads. I have been on Blackhatworld and coincidentally entered the Internet marketing world about 4-5 years ago when I finally signed up in 2013. I am by no means a professional Internet Marketeer but I know my stuff, I know how to market which I did with a couple of PPD and CPA ventures.

    I have been producing Electronic Dance Music (which im extremely passionate about) for six years now. Again, I'm no pro but I do know my stuff, my sounds.

    The plan:
    The plan for this week is to create the plan. I want to abstractly look 3-6 months in the future to see where I want to be in that time to measure my performance. Also, I want to figure out EXACTLY what I mean by 'MAKING IT'. I have a vague idea but I want to make it concrete.
    I also:
    1. Update social media accounts
    2. Will set up followliker for my social media accounts (TW + IG) to regularly post.
    3. Finish at least one track by 04-09-2016.

    I feel the creation of the plan and finishing a track will take up most of my time. If I am able to do more I will update.


    Why do I think this will succeed?

    My music has reached a point where one could measure it to the professional sounds. What I now have to do is seperate myself and stand out from the crowd.
    I graduated and got a management degree recently. I know how to plan, write documents and finish the job. Sure this post make up make look a little unformal, but that's what I want it to be!


    Other:

    I've seen a lot of journeys fail due to lack of motivation. This is not one of them.
    I will share with you my knowledge and information that I collect over time. What I hope from you is that you interact with my journey.Any tips, links or motivational replies, ANYTHING goes :).
    I will update this thread at least once a week to keep you up to date and track my own progress. I guess you could say it is a seperate factor of motivation!

    I think this is the first music career journey that's gonna succeed on bhw! ( ;D )

    Let's do this.



     
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  2. CialisBilligInternet

    CialisBilligInternet BANNED BANNED

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    If your good enough just give tracks to big labels they release you get a following job done...
     
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    Diskretni Junior Member

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    That is all nicely planned but if you think that you are really good just start sending demo tracks.
     
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    This journey seems interesting and is quite different from others really interested in seeing your progress good luck.
     
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  5. NagacomesforU

    NagacomesforU Regular Member

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    Thank you guys but that is not how it works anymore. Labels expect that you already have a social following.
    Do they wanna pick person 1 who makes average music but has 10000 followers or person 2 that makes amazing music and has 100 followers. They'd pick the first one, why? Because it makes them way more money than the second one even though the second one may have better music.

    I have to grow my following in order to get signed. Also, I'm wondering if I even WANT to sign.
     
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    Hello no.
    They need talented people with unique style & music.
    The labels have enough followers already.
    You need talent & music that people like.
    Once you make something good ,unique & people like it,you will gain followers ??

    Do you think Martin Garrix became famous because he had followers or because he mad e a good song and gained momentum ?
     
  7. NagacomesforU

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    He became famous because he met people through his school. He already had a following when he got signed by Spinnin'. He eventually made animals which they marketed like a mofo and made him one of the top dj's producers. Sure I like his music, but would I ever know he existed without the marketing that has been put out there? Probably not.

    There's alot more one needs then just good music to stick out.
     
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    I'll be looking forward to this o.p and you are right , without marketing no one gives a shit even if you are extremely talented. Good luck !
     
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  9. washand

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    Hi man,

    I am from the netherlands too and maybe we can help each other. PM me please :)

    Washand
     
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  10. Finn

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    Good luck with your journey OP. Besides SEO and Affiliate Marketing I am actually working in the music industry as well.

    Not the simplest task I can tell so you gotta bring up some decent sound and skills in order to get attention from the big guys.
     
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    Good luck to you! The music industry is at a huge turning point now where major labels are going to become less and less prevalent. I would say start your own label in the EDM industry before trying to sign.
     
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  12. NagacomesforU

    NagacomesforU Regular Member

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    Yeah, I see artists that are really talented but just a small group of people knows of them.

    Cool! PM sent

    Thank you, that's nice to hear and you are absolutely right.
    Yeah, the biggest problem is how to bring your tracks to the public. HOW am I going to promote my tracks, why should they listen to my songs instead of that other guy. Questions I gotta answer soon.

    Thank you for your tips. I thought about starting my own label but I decided not to do it. Labels by nobody's are popping from the ground like weeds. People are out there to get money and they think its easy by just making a label and sometimes post a track on social media. If I were to create a label it would mean time investment that I could not use for my own name. Sure, it would flow into each other but I gotta watch out for other artists on my label too, paperwork and stuff like that. There's alot of work involved in a label. At this point I am still independant.
     
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  13. Samuelqw

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    What are you using for your followliker Twitter settings, specifically scrape users.
     
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    OP, good luck on your journey! You live in Europe so take advantage of the doable distances and also plan to start touring or at least appearing in different cities with local DJs that are already pulling people by offering them to host them back. Offline stuff like that still works and helps a lot in creating a following and some very engaging content for your Instagram and stuff. Obviously, don't do it too early but don't skip it, because it works very well if done right.

    I'm sorry, but neither you, nor the other people talking about sending demos to labels have the slightest clue what they are talking about. Labels need musicians they can make money from, not spend money on. So having some kind of a following and even sales, especially in this day and age is essential and far more important than uniqueness. Signing an artist is like buying a website - even if it has the most unique content ever, you are never going to pay big money for it if it's not getting traffic and if it's not making money already. And in the music business you actually get to keep your website, so what you're offering the label needs to be even sweeeter. Very few labels in the world have the cash to develop artists from scratch and even they are really unlikely to do so simply because it makes zero sense if you decide to think about it logically. Universally good music doesn't exist because art is simply subjective, so no professional A&R will go on their personal taste alone this days. Labels need artists the public would recognize as good and the best way to measure that is by their ability to succeed without a label. They also need consistency and work ethics from their artists and developing a following on their own selects for that as well. Also, big labels usually sign artists that have a proven track record with smaller or medium sized labels first, so just a following would rarely be enough. The idea of a successful artist just sitting back and writing a few hits when they feel like it while sipping on margaritas next to their pool at their 20 million dollar mansion, because their music is "just so good" is as far from reality as the idea of the IM newbie who would buy a $10 WSO and be a billionaire in 6 weeks. Both success in the music industry and in IM require a lot of hard work and griding and if one of the two requires more effort and time, it would be music and not by a small margin at all.

    We are far past the turning point actually. Change is already in full swing.
     
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    Damn , you won me.
     
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    Very interesting. I have been around the dance music scene here in New York and unfortunately its not so much about talent as how you market yourself.

    Take this for example, a mashup of every beat-port top 100 song for a year
    https://soundcloud.com/daleri/epic-mashleg
     
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    If you need more motivation you should watch "We are your friends" movie. Good luck
     
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    It's good know about your idea. Good luck mate.
     
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    Good luck on this op.

    Sending demos is not the way, I have done this with a number of labels for years and the tracks have ranked high on beatport etc but I havent got a penny after the labels cost. I have now set up a wp site where I sell my own music and use seo to market, seems to work for me I've had gig offers, licensing and remixes offers.

    I can normally turn a track around in about 2 days then it's on the site for sell then out to my list, you might want to consider your productivity.

    EDM is a fickle industry and most labels have ghost producers working 24/7 producing tracks for a salary.

    Do it yourself use your marketing tools get 100% of the income.

    Good luck
     
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