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I will be the first affiliate for a big company!

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by LoboRsxS, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. LoboRsxS

    LoboRsxS Regular Member

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    Well I was browsing around and I found a company and asked them If I can become an affiliate. Right away the business manager and online marketing manager emailed me. We then talked and I told them I can build their facebook group and make linkwheels for keywords. SO then they accepted me and ask for my rates!

    >Here's the thing though. It's the first time I charge someone :(. Since they don't have a tracking system since they don't have an affiliate program, how much should i charge them? And how should I do it? They have big bank account ;) but I don't want to overcharge or rip myself off. How would I do this? Charge like $100 for each wheel depending on keyword? And also for facebook, $10 for every 100 friends?

    Basically I'll be doing their SEO I guess but I am no SEO expert I told them but they said it's alright as long as I bring traffic :). :D:D First time for fulltime income!! :D
     
  2. stealthisblog

    stealthisblog Regular Member

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    Uh, since you're an affiliate, shouldn't you be getting paid every time you cause a sale? You sure they're not asking you how much % you want of the sale? Usually becoming an affiliate doesn't mean you do all the SEO for the company, and I've never heard of someone charging per linkwheel... then again, this may be the first time :)
     
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  3. affiliatesense

    affiliatesense Newbie

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    you can ask them to become a vender at CJ and then you can start promoting their products. CJ will take care of all tracking.

    It depends on how you convince them.
     
  4. djedje70

    djedje70 Regular Member

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    none of ur fr#$%ing biz dude!!!
    Or you could set up a sister site where you will take and proceed all the orders and then buy from them and let them ship. Much like drop shipping.
     
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  5. MuShu

    MuShu BANNED BANNED

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    I also think that this is a great idea if its a product made for CJ.



    Anyway, if the company has a "big bank account" :p you should better take a little extra, that is a thing most people are afraid of since they think that they will lose everything. If you do a good job don't worry!

    Take care
     
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  6. thesilent

    thesilent Supreme Member

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    Act profeesional, don't send them bills in notepad or excel, send them invoices. Don't feel guilty about how much you charge. 100$ for linkwheel is forum rate. You should be charging more.

    Never say I am an average SEO or anything in the lines. What you do will be way better than what 50% of those companies with fancy logos and offices do.
     
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  7. LoboRsxS

    LoboRsxS Regular Member

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    thanks you guys :D this forum is the best lmao! if blackhatworld were a female i would fuck it everyday :D
     
  8. LoboRsxS

    LoboRsxS Regular Member

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    Thanks bud! I delicioused this comment :)
     
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    sddk Junior Member

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    Request $1000/day ... :confused:

    I don't understand how can you provide them with a big amount of traffic and you said that you're not a SEO expert, you're asking how to do? and they don't have a tracking system???

    + You said: I will be the first affiliate for a big company!

    I want to tell you something, Good Luck :D
     
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  10. LoboRsxS

    LoboRsxS Regular Member

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    thanks bud :) right now im doing keyword research for them then will start doing linkwheels around it. Plus I will be building their facebook,twitter,myspace:eek::eek:
     
  11. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Ask them how much is their budget for online promotion, and say you will adapt your strategy and efforts accordingly.
     
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  12. lewi

    lewi Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Always a winner! Getting them to tell you first then act as if you are going to do less or more for their budget accordingly!
     
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  13. LoboRsxS

    LoboRsxS Regular Member

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    I don't think I will do that for now :) Gonna see how it will go without tracking :p "O yeah dude my site is getting 1,000,000 views/clicks where is my money lmao
     
  14. boomer23

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    It sounds to me like what they really need is an affiliate manager, not a "first affiliate." If I were you, that's how I would position myself.

    I think listing at CJ is almost certainly the right first move for a company with deep pockets, unless it's a product that just doesn't fit there. As affiliate manager, you would manage their CJ advertiser account (post banners, text ads, policies). You would recruit affiliates and handle affiliate communications, including training. That's where your Facebook expertise could come in.

    For your services as AM you should ask for a base salary plus an override percentage of all affiliate commissions.

    That's how I would approach this kind of opportunity.

    Boomer23
     
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  15. listenloud

    listenloud Registered Member

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    if you are in position to make those kind of choices then keep it. You obviously want them to be successful so they will continue to pay you, but do as others have above and ask for their budget. Then, make then a ton of good advertisements and show them that you are in a good position and they will think they are gettin a good deal. That way, you can customize how much you are investing in being their "first affiliate" and they wont have much choice at all.
     
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    Yeah I would go with what listenload said. Make sure you are successful at what you are doing before you start running down the affiliate road. And always make sure that they can afford it before you go any further.
     
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  17. LoboRsxS

    LoboRsxS Regular Member

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    don't affiliates make more then the manager though? I don't know about tracking and all that CJ setup :(

    alright I will talk to him tomorrow and see what their budget is.

    How would I sign a contract if they don't have an affiliate program? through fax?

    kk
     
  18. pubenemy

    pubenemy Registered Member

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    I'd have to agree you need to get whatever you work out in writing. I'd also go with as someone mentioned being the affiliate manager/lead affiliate. You at the top of the food chain with a base salary and a % of all other affiliates sales along with your own. You/They are going to need some tracking software for this. There are plenty out there to chose from. But again whatever you decide get it in writing.
     
  19. boomer23

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    Not if you can negotiate a decent override. Like any sales manager, the AM should get a percentage of the total earned commissions. I don't know what the going rate is, but let's say 8% for the sake of argument. Then if you had 100 affiliates, and they averaged $500/month each in earnings, you would get $4000/month in override commissions.

    Are you a fast learner? :)

    Boomer23
     
  20. heiny

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    Insertion Order my friend.....That's what you need and you need it SIGNED by them. Also specify the T&C CLEARLY otherwise they will come back to you and say; what work? Do I know you? We never spoke, sorry, have a good day.

    All the best from here :)