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I Went Vegan for 21 Days. Here's What Happened.

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  1. Reaver

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    I know we have a lot of vegans on this board. So let me first say that this thread is not about bashing vegans or their way of life. It's about me trying something new and the results of my experiment.

    Last year we had a thread about going vegan or being vegan or something like that. In it I commented that I admire people who go vegan, because that takes a lot of self control. (I'm sure Wilson or Z can dig up that thread, but I can't find it.)

    This year I will be 33 years old. I have a bucket list of 100 things I want to do before I die. One of those things is go vegan. So I decided to try it, because I ain't gettin' any younger.

    My goal was to eat strictly vegan for 21 days. In order to support me, my sister went vegan with me. She is allergic to milk, and she loves vegan food anyway, so this didn't bother her.

    My Diet:
    I thought I'd be super bored with my diet, but my sister showed me that is not the case. She brought home all kinds of vegan food. We ate a lot of veggies, fruits and quinoa, but we also got down on pasta, homemade breads, desserts and other delicious things.

    I hate milk, but a lot of the things I wanted to eat had milk in them, so we had to find a way to make (or buy) a vegan version that didn't have milk in it.

    I did miss the taste of meat, so I ate a LOT of Bocca. I actually enjoyed the taste of it. I also didn't drink any pop or any other carbonated drinks. I only had tea, lemonade and water. I didn't have any refined sugar either. I used stevia to sweeten everything.

    The Positive Effects: I lost 25 pounds in 21 days.

    I had a ton of energy and I felt really good. I was much more active. I was laser focused. I actually wrote a 100,000 word novel in 21 days. I didn't feel sluggish at all. I went from sleeping 12 hours a day to sleeping 6 hours a day.

    My skin cleared up. Before I had this really nasty black spot called "the mask of pregnancy" around my mouth. It came from drinking too much soda and eating too much acid. It itched and burned like a mofo. But it's nearly gone now.

    I'm going to contribute the clear skin to me laying off the soda for 21 days, and not the actual vegan diet. Anyone can lay off of soda and get their skin cleared up. That's not much of an accomplishment.

    Moving on.

    I ate a lot less because I got full quickly. I will contribute this to eating clean, although I know that I didn't need to go meatless to do it. But now I can eat a saucer full of food, get full and stay full for hours. Before, when I was eating junk, I was constantly shoving things into my mouth. Candy, cookies, pies, cakes, fried food, chips - you name it. If it was horrible I'd eat it, I'd love it and I'd go back for thirds.

    I would also eat really late at night. Sometimes I would eat at 11 or 12 midnight. I stopped doing that, and capped my food intake at 7pm. The first few nights my stomach would growl around 10pm, but I would just drink water and go to bed. Eventually that stopped happening.

    The Negative Effects: I. Had. A major. Headache.

    It started about 14 days in and it didn't stop for a week. I kept taking aspirin. It would go away for a few hours and then come back with a vengeance.

    I thought it was because my body wanted junk, or maybe I was detoxing or something. Finally it got so bad I went to see my doctor.

    He told me I was protein deficient.

    Surprise!

    So today and for the next week, I have to eat as much protein as possible. He told me I needed to eat animal meat. I wondered if I could stomach it because I hadn't had it in 3 weeks, but my stomach was quite happy with that baked chicken I shoved in my mouth. And my steak wrapped in bacon. And the chicken tacos I'm going to eat tonight while I'm gaming.

    What I Learned: I can control myself around food. I used to think "Omg I could never do that." Yes I can. Aside from the withdrawal symptoms and the protein deficiency it actually wasn't bad. I enjoyed my new diet.

    But my body needs animal protein. I can't go full vegan. I applaud anyone who does, but I just cannot do it.

    I do plan to keep eating a lot of fruits and veggies, and I will still eat Bocca. But I'm keeping chicken and bacon in my diet. I missed bacon. I missed it a lot. I ate fake bacon but there's nothing like real bacon. I also missed cheese. And sour cream. And cheese. Vegan cheese doesn't taste anything like cow cheese. I'd rather have cow cheese.

    I'm not going to eat the weight I lost back on. I'm going to find a way to balance out my diet so that the weight stays off.

    I didn't have to go vegan to get clear skin and lose weight. My goal wasn't even to lose weight. That was just a pleasant side effect. But I did learn a lot about food and my relationship with it. It's shifted dramatically. I like my new relationship with food, and I plan on keeping it.

    Food and I don't have a love affair anymore. We just do booty calls.
     
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    Too hard for me, though the fact you lost 25 pounds in 21 days itself surprises me!
     
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    What i get from this is people need junk=). That reminded me the time i gave up booze for a week. I had a major headache went to see a doctor and he told me to go back to my 7 beers a day diet. I get better after that.
     
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    Good job dude :)

    Fuck doing that, I love eating dead animals way too much to do it.

    I can't think of a single go to meal that does not contain meat that I enjoy...

    Now go the other way, buy a gun and go out and only eat animals you shoot.

    It will give you a whole different appreciation for what you eat.
     
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  6. Reaver

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    I missed bacon so much. I want to fry an entire pack of bacon for breakfast tomorrow and just pig out, but I'll refrain.
     
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    How much calories per day were you consuming on the vegan diet compared to what you were probably normally consuming ?
     
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    Good Job! It takes alot of hard work and balls to go through what you went through! I experience a similar wake up in the food diet and I as well experienced headaches! For me it was because I was so into sugar and when I cut it out my body didn't react well to it :(
     
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  9. Reaver

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    I never counted my calories in either case, so I can't tell you. I know my vegan meals were a lot less per calories compared to my normal meals. On my vegan diet a typical meal would be two cups of a vegetable, a boca burger (or something similar) and some quinoa. Or I would have one small serving of pasta and a salad. Something like that. Snacks consisted of fruit or a smoothie made with fresh fruit and soy milk.

    On my normal diet, I would eat things like a cheeseburger, fries, a 32oz pop and some churros. Then about two hours later I'd eat two king sized candy bars. Snacks consisted of ice cream sundaes, cake, candy or something similar. Breakfast was the worst. I ate huge southern breakfasts, like eggs, grits with cheese, pancakes, ham and toast.

    Also I was pretty sedentary. I never wanted to do anything on my normal diet. On my vegan diet I would walk 10 to 12 miles a day or go hiking with friends. Could have done that on my normal diet but what I was eating was making me feel like crap. All I wanted to do was eat and sleep.

    Not saying going vegan is a cure-all for diet problems or problems with your body. But it helped me put a lot of things into perspective and gave me quite a kick in the ass.
     
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    Your hair fell off, right ?
     
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  11. vandridel

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    good job in managing your food.
     
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    Good going. My wife and I have recently gone vegan/vegetarian but TBH there is around 10% meat eaten each week - I am trying to do gluten free as well as my Dad had Celiac's Disease and I think I have an intolerance and certainly don't want CD as it was a nightmare (he passed away 10 years ago from pancreatic cancer which I haven't looked into but I guess could be related to CD).

    Anyway, vegan food is really nice. I really just can't stand meat any more. I feel bloated and fat when I eat meat. I feel lighter, faster (bike/running), fitter and less lethargic when I don't eat meat. My poohs are better as well and more regular, a couple of easier ones compared to one big difficult one lol.

    I'm not against animals dying, they die all the time and if people want to eat them fine.

    Your doctor is a dick though. Protein deficient in 21 days....fucking bullshit. You've probably eaten plenty of protein and not noticed. Humans only need around 20g per day, but the WHO doubled that for no reason and if you lift weights then some butcher came up with 1g of meat per kg bodyweight per day...all bollocks.

    There's only a variety of lemur, the Giant Panda and humans that have converted their natural diets. Humans are the only mammal to change to being carnivores. The other two have converted to herbivores - TBF a Giant Panda can't even hold a chick Panda down to fuck never mind grab a monkey to eat. Our stomachs aren't designed for meat. Fructose is all we need - that's why there are so many fruitarians nowadays - as every cell in our body needs sugar (not refined white shit, but real sugar that our livers can utilise quickly.

    In my opinion and obviously it's not shared by the majority, it's time to go back to what we were designed to eat. I'm not a tree hugger hippy. I just care about myself - spent far too long worrying about others and trying to please them - but eating clean, no shit, no GM, organic everything has made me a better person, more productive and better at thinking and sports. I can't really say it's a coincience or I was expecting it to be like this, I just wanted to try it out and really fucking like it. It's not difficult either - we eat out a lot, tonight we had a takeaway though she got the Tandoori chicken that I stole a bit as I still have a pull to eating meat and I got vegetable chow mein and am still stuffed 7 hours later (working late tonight 2am right now).
     
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    And its not healthy at all!

    Being a vegan is not about health its a lifestyle. I am not, but when someone says that it healthy I just want to roast them and eat them.
     
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    No my hair did not fall out. I think part of that was because I wasn't telling people I knew about how horrible their diet was and trying to make them feel bad about eating meat. In fact, when my friends asked how I lost so much weight in such a short amount of time, I told them I was eating more veggies and fruit, laying off the sugary stuff and getting plenty of exercise.

    Then I went back to eating meat.

    At this point I choose to listen to my doctor, even if he is being a dick.

    Everyone's body is different. I did find that it was easier for me to go to the bathroom, and I loved that. I didn't feel like I was giving birth.

    I know eating meat is making my headache better. It's still there but it doesn't feel like someone is trying to crack my head open. It's manageable. I expect in a couple of days it will go away.

    I love vegan food too. But I love food. I think that was my entire problem. If it was dead and bled I was going to eat it, and I didn't care wtf was in it or where it came from.

    Going vegan, even temporarily, made me care about what I was putting into my body. I learned to read labels and have self control. I also learned to enjoy simple meals instead of having complex meals that mostly consisted of starches and fried things.

    In the end, I'm not going to give up eating healthier, but I'm still going to eat meat. I just won't gorge on it. I love it but I'll take it in manageable portions, instead of eating so much of it I feel sick and lethargic afterwards.

    Yesterday I got word that a friend of mine died of a major stroke. She was 40 and weighed over 500lbs. It was her second major stroke in 3 months. After the first one, her doctor told her she needed to eat a certain way and lose weight so that she could recover better. She didn't listen to him. Now she's dead.

    What we put in our bodies can kill us. The key is being balanced, listening to your body and doing what's right for you.

    If you wanna go cannibal bc someone says being vegan is healthy, go right ahead. I find that to be an overreaction, but whatever floats your boat or finds your lost remote.
     
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    Kudos to you man, nothing wakes a man up by the smell of bacon sanny..Bacon is God, hmmm jeez its 3am here i could murder a bacon sanny right now lol
     
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    Great job my friend, it's awesome to have a certain discipline to what you take in. Great motivation. Am going grocery shopping now, best of luck.
     
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    A world of advice: You cannot get Vitamin B12 from just vegetables alone. If you plan on going vegan forever, then I highly recommend to start taking a Vitamin B12 supplement. If the amount of B12 goes low in your body, it can cause Anemia and a whole range of neurological problems.
     
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    Good job on the eating healthy and losing weight... I am on the same boat as you as far as eating clean is concerned.

    Though I am just in the first week... ,I feel a lot better eating less and the best part about is i am not starving as well.

    Btw I am a Big time foodie, eat all sorts of junk food ,rice ,fatty food,etc. And I have never imagined that i could eat 25g protein and little oats and almonds as my breakfast and still feel full... :D

    Staying consistent is the Key , still a long way to go for me :)
     
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    I'm not a vegan but I take in a lot of supplements because I do a fair bit of training. Have you looked into Spirulina for your protein ?? Dont think you need to be eating meat for your protein needs.
     
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    Nice to hear your little journey :)
     
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