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I want to buy a new computer. I want a good SSD Drive and I don't care about the rest

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by tony-raymondo, May 12, 2011.

  1. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    I just want a bottom line PC with a 100 gig SSD (Sold State Disk) drive.

    I don't care about the other components

    What i've discovered is, these are pretty hard to find.

    e.g. you can find a 1700 dollar computer with an SSD, and all this graphics and high speed chip stuff.

    But its hard to find a computer with bottom line components AND an SSD drive.

    The hard drive is the bottleneck in most office-style applications -- so all I need is the SSD drive to really actualize an increase in observed performance. I don't play games so i don't care about the video card etc.

    Help!

    Thanks!

    :D
     
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  2. tacopalypse

    tacopalypse Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    just buy the ssd separately. 100gb sdd goes for around $200.
    newegg & amazon are good places to get them.
     
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  3. Keo777

    Keo777 Newbie

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    Do you know much about computers? If so I'd suggest just building one. Or maybe buy a cheapish computer and a SSD drive separate and put the SSD drive in yourself.
     
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  4. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    ya i'm kind of trying to avoid rebuilding one.

    i guess the cheapest way would be to use

    http://clonezilla.org/

    and just order an SSD and stick it in an old computer

    but i'd really just like a new one
     
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    ahiddenman Elite Member

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    I use my SSD for Windows booting

    Then i have 3x 1.5tb 7200rpm drives for storage.
     
  6. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    ya thats cool
     
  7. oO ASBESTOS Oo

    oO ASBESTOS Oo Newbie

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    mate I was running os SSD's and the are quick, I loved them until the day the firmware corupted for no reason and I lost loads of stuff. Gave them some faith, flashed tham and reinstalled, two weeks later one pack up again. You have to clear them by putting a jumper on, but this wipes everything. You can format them either, you have to be carefull with them. I cant be bothered with them and they are sitting on my shelf gathering dust. :)
     
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  8. Mokodoki

    Mokodoki Regular Member

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    Pretty much the best option is going to be to buy a new, pre-built computer that has an extra harddrive bay.

    Putting in a hard drive is literally all of 5 minutes work, and it's really totally a plug and play process. If you haven't done it before, it's probably a 15 minute job... maybe. Unlike upgrading other major components, you can pretty much guarantee that you won't run into any problems with incompatibility.

    As for what company to get a tower from (that's cheap), I'd go with HP. They have pretty parts in their computers compared to other cheap end manufacturers. :rolleyes:
     
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  9. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    Thanks

    its not the hardware installation i'm worried about

    I just really don't want to learn http://clonezilla.org/


    i've tried cloning twice in my life, and failed both times

    would prefer if it just showed up at the door.

    I'm surprised i cant find a nice SSD desktop online
    :(
     
  10. matsta

    matsta Power Member

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    Atm theres 2 ssd's which are regarded as the best.

    First off theres the OCZ Vertax 3, however it's kinda hard to find one.

    Or theres the OWC Mecury Extreme Pro 6G, which you can get off Macsales.com (works in PC or Mac)

    The both have the same Sandforce 220 controller, however OCZ's memory chips are a tiny bit faster. However the OWC drive will last longer since their chips are rated to have more write commands.

    Remember your motherboard will need to have Sata III in order to make the most of the ssd.
     
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    Mokodoki Regular Member

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    Wait, why would you need to use Clonezilla in the first place? If you put the new HD in at the same time as you get the computer, you shouldn't need to clone anything unless you're talking about data from your current HD which, if that is your method of backup, you would have to do anyways. Generally, you want to start out with a fresh installation on new hardware anyways.
     
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  12. etern1ty

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    just check out newegg's public wishlists for good configurations. it's social so a lot of voting, commenting, etc going on. will allow you weed out a good build for yourself. that is, if you can build computers. if not, then check out tigerdirect.com or amazon.com for pre-built computers, and get the SSD seperately. I highly recommend the OCZ agility or vertex line of SSDs. I recently upgraded my computer from a 4x WD Velociraptor Raptor RAID-5 array on an Adaptec 5405 to a single OCZ 120GB Agility 2 and the difference in performance is mind blowing. It's all about the access times....
     
  13. tony-raymondo

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    You're asking for a cheap customized setup. Not possible unless you do it yourself. You're going to get ripped off, no matter what.
    It's like asking for a cheap pinto (car) with a v12 engine. Only to realize it will cost alot at the end, unless you do it yourself.

    So to clear that up. Build it yourself. Problem solved. It really isn't that hard. There are TONS of good deals out there, and you can buy yourself a nice new, and fast system for under 400 bucks if you build it yourself. Look at newegg / microcenter and look for the combo deals. Matter of fact since you are in the US, go walk into microcenter and they will give you the best package unless you really deal hunt, then you need to put it all together yourself.

    If you're really want to avoid building it youself, when you goto microcenter, chat some salespeople there and let them help you build a machine. On the sidenote, ask them to build it for you when they get off work (offer to pay them on the side for like 20-50 bucks), its like a 5 min job with a SSD. Seriously.
    Make sure you have a copy of windows/or another O/S ready though.
     
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  15. thevil

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    Oh yeah, clonezilla maybe complicated looking for a guy with no tech skills. If you're on a new computer, and you want a exact clone copy of your current system.

    I have some bad news for you, you WILL run into some trouble, especially with the corrupt boot manager and you need to repair it by running the windows disk.
    This is because your hardware has changed.
    The BEST solution is to basically reinstall everything FRESH. If you want to transfer stuff, place your old drive with a USB drive adapter or external case and plug it in and just start transfering stuff.

    If you absolutely need to clone your drive use macrium or paragon (my two picks)(free trial is good enough)
    A review of the cloners
    Code:
    http://dottech.org/featured/11628
     
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