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i think my site has been hit by big G - need expert advice

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by 7yearitch, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. 7yearitch

    7yearitch Regular Member

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    i have an authority website with 70+ posts with average of 1000 words/post. even with that amount of unique content i wasn't ranking for shit and i figured "screw it!" and built some links using services in bhw.

    ranked for a lot of long tails before this but after a few months of link building, my traffic went from around 60/day to almost nothing now. so i think i've been hit. but i'm not sure. but it's quite possible.

    either way, assuming i've been hit, what should i do to get back the site? or should i just cut my losses and start another site?

    nothing shows up in webmaster tools and when i check all my pages are indexed. my keywords are still in the top10 for a few terms but the rest are long tails so i don't know how to test them.

    anyone had experience with this? much obliged
     
  2. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    Have you been tracking rankings for any of your keywords? It sounds like you might have been hit with a penalty if it is almost zero traffic now. If you haven't received anything in webmaster tools, I would suggest using the Panguin Tool to overlay your analytics to see if there was an algorithmic update around when your traffic started to drop.
     
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  3. TropicalSun

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    When did your rankings fall? Check analytics. That can give you an idea of which penalty you were hit by.

    Sounds like you were over optimizing your links, which in turn triggered a penalty.

    Are you sure you don't have a penalty in webmaster tools? They just rolled penalites out the last few days to a lot of sites.
     
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    shah88 Registered Member

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    Check your penalty in webmaster tool and also check your outbound links. Many of us makes a big mistake. Check those outbound links that they have no any bad links on them like drugs, rehab or even escorts services related link. Hope this will help you. Best
     
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  5. 7yearitch

    7yearitch Regular Member

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    thnks for the replies. is it possible that only 1 page was hit by penguin? i used a service here on bst and i think i might have triggered penguin.

    i read somewhere that i should create another page with completely new content targeting the same kws, and redirect the old page to the new one. that way i could bypass the penguin penalty.

    is that what any of you would do? thx
     
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    the last penguin refresh was months ago, when did your rankings drop ? if it was less than two months ago it's probably not due to penguin.
     
  7. 7yearitch

    7yearitch Regular Member

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    a few days ago. if what you said is true, then i'm really stumped. i don't know what happened to my site..
     
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    If your rank went down around 60 then it was probably a -50 penalty. If all your keywords dropped from the serps then it is most likely a site-wide penalty. It took me about 2 months to remove the manual site-wide penalty. This is what I did:

    1. Go through all of my links, disavowed the:

    spammy bookmarks, article directories, blog comments, etc. Anything that would look spammy in G's eyes

    2. ask web masters to remove the guest post links
    -most likely i got no response so I disavowed them

    3. asked for a reconsideration. I got rejected once, and again went through my links and removed all the links (most of the links I got from BST's here...)

    When I wrote the reconsideration request. I followed this site's format and it helped my site get it's manual revoked.

    Code:
    http://www.poweredbysearch.com/google-reconsideration-request-example/
    I regained about...70-80% of my traffic. I lost traffic on keywords where I disavowed them, but happy to get my traffic back.

    To get an idea, i disavowed links from over 500 domains and probably about 250 separate links.

    Goodluck...
     
  9. Veyron

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    Go to AHREFS and check your back link profile and this may explain what has happened.
     
  10. TropicalSun

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    Yes, now you know where to focus your efforts.

    Work on reducing the over optimized, and likely crappy, links to that page. There are services that can help you do this.

    Don't waste time on the disavow, people confuse it's effectiveness for links naturally going away.
     
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    Hi 7yearitch,

    Check for a manual penalty which is the worse kind:

    [h=3]View the Manual Action page:[/h]
    1. On the Webmaster Tools Dashboard, click Search Traffic.
    2. Click Manual Actions.

    This will tell you if you have a manual penalty. These are the worse because they don't expire and can't be flushed out by adding more content.
    They can be removed but it just takes time and effort, disvowing links etc.

    I have come back from both types.

    Good Luck!
    -Capp
     
  12. 7yearitch

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    i've checked in webmaster tools, no manual penalties. which is weird because this is what i see in rankchecker pro:

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    i've heard of algo changes happening but i'm really not sure. some of my other kws are dropping as well
     
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    I'd take a manual penalty over an algorithmic one any day. At least with manual you can submit reconsideration. If it's penguin - you're fucked. Personally, I'd start over. Watch out for BHW link building services. Google buys them all and then penalizes those who use them.
     
  14. 7yearitch

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    yeah i'm finding out the same thing about bhw link building services. tried out a few and so far not many seem to provide links that stick. i think i'll just do the redirect approach with a fresh page and fresh content.

    but i'll wait it out a bit i think. google's algo is going bananas recently if algoroo's stats are to be believed:

    google algo.jpg

    i'll let the storm pass before building anymore links.

    another thing that baffles me:

    i checked a few of my kws that are in first page and they're still there. one kw is no 3 for a 1300 exact searches term. yet my traffic according to analytics data is zero..

    if anyone can shed light on this i would appreciate it very much. i am officially stumped!
     
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    Sorry I didn't see you have replied, allright. could you report us with the keyword density you are using for your targetted money keyword.
     
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    this might be a dumb question, but are you sure that your analytics is running properly?
     
  17. 7yearitch

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    it's an authority site. the domain name is a brand name so doesn't contain the keywords i try to rank. the links to domain are 90% http://www.domainname.com, [domain name]anchor text, click here, etc. for the innner pages i used a high percentage (90%) of anchor text, with click here etc added here and there. is that what triggered the penalty?


    yep the site has been around for almost two years now. analytics has worked since the start.