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I spend about $20 day and am only making pennies! What can I do?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by crackaway, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. crackaway

    crackaway Junior Member

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    I've dropped a few hundred bucks on my site already and am making pennies. I spend like $20 a day on articles. I do get good traffic but lately I've been buying some traffic. Overall I'd say about 8,000 to 10,000 Page views a day. I am ranking well for my keywords as well. The reason I'm spending so much is in the hopes that I will score advertising directly with publishers but takes time and I want to at least break even till then.

    I currently have AdSense, adbrite and chitika on the Site and they pay crap. Adbrite reported 14k impressions yesterday with only $0.03 CPM which is horrible!! Where can I find a CPM only program that pay well? Everyone keeps saying there are companies that pay $1-3 CPM but I have been researching for days and got nothing. I'm not interested in CPC or CPA since I know conversions will be terrible. I think CPM is my best bet right now but I have no good leads. This is a specific gaming niche.

    Thanks
     
  2. crackaway

    crackaway Junior Member

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    I would rather not have to resort to that but if I were to, where is the best place to do so?
     
  3. 2011nfl

    2011nfl Supreme Member

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    I doubt you will ever see that money, and if you have already been paid, I'm shocked..... But either way, it won't last
     
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    directaxcess Power Member

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    It's funny how you never hear senior members of the forums saying they "buy clicks". Good luck getting your pay out :)
     
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    First of all, you should cut your expenses. If it's been a while since you spend $20/day and nothing is coming, you should definitely stop paying. For the traffic, it's the same.

    In fact, the bought traffic WILL NOT help you with the direct advertising from publishers... Well, they may buy a spot for one month, but once they see the traffic does not convert well, they will not renew it... and you'll be screwed.

    So first advice: Stop the expenses right now.
    Second one: Try to contact some advertisers right now, with the real traffic figures (without the bought one).

    GL!
     
  6. crackaway

    crackaway Junior Member

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    you guys are right. this guy is probably just BSing. Anyway, as mentioned, I would rather not do that. Any other recommendations? I just went into adbrite and blocked all the CPC ads since none of them generate ads worthwhile. I left all the full page ads and CPM ads.
     
  7. redclover

    redclover BANNED BANNED

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    First thing to do is stop spending money. Next step is to find advertisers.
    You could even put some banners up on your website saying "Advertise Here!"

    RedClover
     
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  8. 2011nfl

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    Well then that means your about to get banned again..... Loose lips sink ships
     
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    DMMXII Newbie

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    you should try using buysellads , its easy for ad management and they find advertisers for you , and you split profits 75/25 so its a pretty good deal
     
  10. crackaway

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    The reason I am buying traffic is to improve my alexa score. I contacted an advertiser and they were interested but since my alexa score was 575k+, they said they wouldn't want to work with me unless it was below 200K. The traffic doesn't actually cost anything at all anymore. There was a start up fee but now I get a few thousand views a day. Again, only to improve my alexa. No advertiser would want to work with me if my scores suck. To me, alexa is useless but for advertisers, it is important. But I see what you're saying, if the conversions suck then they won't repeat but better to get some advertising then none at all.

    $20 gets me like 5+ articles. I am okay with spending money to make money but perhaps it is a bit excessive. I just can't see myself doing well if I am not posting. I am really busy and that is why I outsource my articles.
     
  11. MermaidMurder

    MermaidMurder Regular Member

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    Oh maybe cuz your a fool... Google is just a big ass database.. Your banning is only a time factor. G idk how could they gather enough info to see that I am committing fraud? You are lol and you advice is not to be followed.

     
  12. crackaway

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    To the person who suggested Buysellads, I got denied. I think I don't have enough traffic yet or maybe because I have popup ads.

    What are your recommendations for high paying CPM advertisers?
     
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    You do realize that you are essentially stealing from advertisers right? Pretty sure this is a blackhat forum not a fraud one....
     
  14. crackaway

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    Could we stay on topic please? Still looking for a high paying cpm as agency
     
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    Buysellads will not accept you until you have alexa rank less than 100k, PR, have a beautiful website, and maybe an article or two about them, then you might be accepted.About CPM, i have not seen anyone that is worth it, but they few i know are extremely good but super hard to get into, e.g. Tribal fusion
     
  16. concrete

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    Try these guys. My CPM is $3.50 and they are specific to game ads and sites. (I have a game site)

    http://www.epicgameads.com/ISE2nmendF_publishers.html

    that is the referral link, if you go in that direction please use it so I can make a few bucks.

    They pay out quicker than adsense too and have a nice reporting panel.

    Good luck man.
     
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    Why dont you remove all the crappy advertise,
    try to build an email list and send them offers related to your niche.

    with 8k page views a day you could be earning a decent amount.
     
  18. crackaway

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    Thanks man! This is what I've been looking for. I used your referral code as a thanks. I just applied but do you know what the minimum traffic requirement to be accepted? My site is only a few months old. Hope I get it!
     
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    bigg_capp Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    My first advice is like everyone said, stop spending money. $20/ day, That is a lot of money.

    If you have 20 or 30 articles check your ranking positions and work on "off" page SEO". It's better to take that $20 per day and pay someone to do on topic manual back links. Diversify your anchor text and use assorted high pr blogs only, forums and social media. Don't create a pattern, use all the links sporadically. Also try and get a few 3 way link exchanges with other gaming sites. Not more then 1 or 2 for now. Your site is still young.

    Monitor your SERP positions and you will start to see an increase. Then add about 5 articles per week/ versus per day.

    Lastly, don't crowd your site with ads. 3 well placed adds is all you need. With 8000 unique views, in a niche you should be looking at $25 per day at least. If I get 8000 untargetted visits I get about $15 - $16.

    Also rotate one or two CPA offers. I went 18 months with different offers with almost no conversions. From email Ipad submitts to that stupid publishing clearing house offer. Then I found one that gets 4 "fill ins" per day.

    Don't do anything dumb, don't blast your site with shitty links, don't fake clicks, and you should stop buying traffic if you are running adsense. The two don't go together well.

    Good Luck
    -Capp
     
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  20. concrete

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    Thanks! They should aprove you soon, I think it took a few hours to a day for me to get approved and I had maybe 50 page views then. I doubt you will have an issue.