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I see no way in scaling things up... (+earnings screenshot)

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by omagad, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. omagad

    omagad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi guys!

    First of all, I'm using MVB + my own twist (which might be wrong, never tried regular ways) + some page locked.

    Currently I'm fighting to maintain about 3k vids, and as you can see, i have low earning spikes because from time to time I get all my vids taken down.

    Maintenance costs are for HMA VPN (again, maybe another flaw) and around $100 / month for YT accounts.

    I'm constantly making from $500 to about $1500 for some months now.

    When I started this I planned ahead and researched content locking sub-niches for about 100k vids. I planned everything ahead (I do this for any action), but for the last few months I am only struggling between YT mass bans, re-uploads, sorting things with my acc provider and never managed to go through with my 'big' plan.

    I'm running MVB on a spare PC and don't have a dynamic IP, thus the HMA VPN.

    I don't leave MVB always running, instead I check my vids 2-3 times a day and, if I have available accounts, I re-upload the deleted ones.

    It's really late here and I can't think of any incentive for you guys to give me a hand, I really posted my whole (main and only) earning method above.

    Any thoughts will be appreciated since I don't have no one IRL involved in IM to brainstorm with...

    Thanks and sorry for my poor English, not my main language.

    Earnings for August 2012:

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  2. tchashow

    tchashow Power Member

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    Use other video sharing sites to upload your vids to also. That should increase your earnings. Hope this helps
     
  3. Jamiel

    Jamiel Newbie

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    Try a mass flagger to destroy your competition :)
     
  4. Em][n3m

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    this isn't fair :)
     
  5. thetvnun

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    (imo) url rotation + random sound effects + bp accounts + 100 private proxies (1.00 per proxy) + 4 accounts per proxy + 3 uploads per account/per day. i wish vlad would throw a watermark rotator in mvb though.
     
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    So you guys are experiencing mass bans too ? ( i'm thinking of buying MVB but still not sure if it's still working right or mass ban after a day or two , )
     
  7. Winman

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    Try creating your own YT accounts. Add some value to them (avatar, description, etc). I have some youtube accounts that are 4 months old, and haven't been banned because they look legit. :D
     
  8. sviedinys

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    I was using MVB for few months too, was making about $1k each month with it, but tired of mass bans, also to much mess to create accounts daily manually, buying is expensive when they getting banned so fast. Started working on quality videos without MVB, ranking them, so far everything looks great and I like it more then mass daily spamming. Actually I think its very hard to go big with MVB, I had only few $80+ days from all these months, all earnings always getting down very soon. Still im getting about $10/day from these videos who survived few months ago when uploaded with MVB.
     
  9. GunzZ

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    Maybe if you add CLP2 in your arsenal, the profit will be much higher. Also try different accaunt providers.
     
  10. omagad

    omagad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    CLP is not a walk in a park as you might be tempted to think.
    It requires manual offer selection and input, washing down the conversion with junk traffic and offers spread over various networks which will require several minimum payments reached before cashing in.

    And all this added to the already existing management nightmare that YT spamming is...
     
  11. Streamengine

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    Your best option is to teach a va how to make youtube accounts, one account per proxy; it's not surprising that current providers become greedy pretty quickly and realize that they can use same proxy/phone# when creating multiple accounts, since they can get away with it and blame it on the buyer when youtube finally bans the accounts. That's why it's best to find someone who is willing to do data entry work and TRAIN him, and then make sure you ask him/her to send you screenshots of all the key stages, like proxy switching/sms verification, etc..
     
  12. healzer

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    Mass Quality Video's creation, what about that !?

    There are thousands of sites scraping Youtube video's - those sites can provide a lot of traffic as well - keyword research onYoutube and offYoutube ;)
     
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    If you want to scale up, you could try to scale up in maximizing profit. If you know how to drive traffic you now need to learn more effective ways of turning that traffic into profit. You are around the $0.05/EPC per your screenshot. If you can double that you double your earnings, simple as that. Of course, it requires testing, knowledge, and patience...
     
  14. omagad

    omagad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The profit margins are already a tad low, the cost of manual (VA payment) for 1 acc / proxy (+cost) + phone number (+cost) will give you with so much ROI, if any...

    I think tweaking comes only when traffic source is maxed and / or negative ROI hits, I did not reach any yet, but have a strong management / consistency problem...
     
  15. sniper272

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    first step change network you can earn far more from the amount of clicks you get i make $20-$50 a day with 300 clicks with my network so go for either cpabeyond, adworkmedia or adscendmedia these are the top content lock networks that people are earning the most with my avg epc is around 0.09 with international traffic which could be better but its not the worst.

    Secound Step ditch mvb, yea you might not be able to upload as many videos but atleast you can start progressing. While your still using it your never going to be able to progress because of mass bans which just take your time and money. For a good few months i dident think it was mvb. I ran so many differnt tests which still made me unsure untill i just gave up and started uploading manually guess what? hardly any bans! also be careful what proxys you use these can also cause mass ban along with buying accounts its like trusting a stranger with your mony

    Third Step

    Outsource or step your game up! basically do anything you can to upload more at a faster rate while focusing on quality and quantity at the same time

    Step Four

    Enjoy The Profits ;)

    feel free to hit me up if you have any questions
     
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  16. Streamengine

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    It can actually be cheaper than buying them if you know the right person/team.
     
  17. omagad

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    @sniper272: You will find at the end of this post why I'm not certain I want to ditch MVB just yet. This was happening in May, same method, same sites, same MVB campaigns (since then I didn't manage to scale anymore). Every thing was stacked and got only few accounts banned from time to time. All the vids were uploaded couple hundred on few accounts / IP. And then, one day every single one got banned, after some being live for months. Since then (May ^_^) I just struggle to get every thing back, and every time I do it, I get another partial or mass ban.

    @Streamengine: 1 US proxy, from .50 to $1, that's $100, let's say $50 for 100, 100 US phone numbers are anywhere from $7-$10, that's $60, and pay a VA like what? Less than the proxy cost? Let's say $20 (<$50) and it adds up to $80 per 100 YT PVA's. The cost, if you buy them is from $20-$40...

    And let's say there is some profit here, if you experience mass ban within 24h, it is not possible to refresh 5-10k vids instantly, thus, lowering down your per month epc while re uploading...

    Why I still have faith in MVB (May)

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  18. sviedinys

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    Change network, really, with 1000 clicks on my network I was making $100 and my MVB landing page was not niche related, best so far for me where I was accepted was cpa lead, adworkmedia..others like adscend are more strict, wouldnt even try.

     
  19. sviedinys

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    Also all my survived videos are from May month too. After May every other accounts banned, even I started using private proxies(before not), nothing helps. There are some footprints for sure, because earlier I didnt have these problems.
     
  20. omagad

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    Same here, went from same ip uploading to proxies and VPN, never again did I managed to reach the same amount of traffic ( because mass bans )

    Because of this I seem to be the most difficult customer, with the blaster team everything seems fine, they make accounts by hand an upload 10-20 vids, then reset the Internet connection an repeat. At this rate, I estimate about 30 mins per account. So it will take roughly 1 month just to upload my current videos once (and not re check them untill I finish).

    And what if I get another mass ban at the end, like already happened more than once? Not to mention the proxies/phone numbers costs and the whole time wasted...

    On the other hand, there's my acc provider, one of the nicest guys ever. He replaces banned accounts, each time, without question asked. But he almost gave up on me, and refused to sell me more accounts because I'm wasting my money ( go figure, my provider feels sorry for me ). He also told me that most other customers of his almost never complain, or request replacements, I'm "top account waster" sort of speak...

    Which tells me some guys found a way in doing this profitability....

    From my point of view, mass Yt spam days are gone, I mean, the MVB helps for so much, and it seems "mass" is not that vague but actually has an ending...

    Edit:

    MVB is the GREATEST automation software I ever used!

    It made me, in return, 10ths times the investment. Even today, as a noob, you can at least make back the cost, following the OWCM only, in 1 week, 2 tops.

    This being said, I still believe the problem stands from proxies/accounts/# vids/API combination ( thus, my fault ).
     
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