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I really want to go to UnGagged

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by GrahamCrackers, May 21, 2015.

  1. GrahamCrackers

    GrahamCrackers BANNED BANNED

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    My wife said that if I make one month salary that matches hers (She makes 5,300/m) as well as expenses for the trip, hotel, food airfare, and misc. She'll let me go! I am from the US. I feel this is my break. I keep dreaming about meeting everyone and sharing my ideas about lead generation, etc. Then I'll be a super affiliate status. It's crazy, but I feel very confident in making this happen. I thought about starting a journey. Then there are days where you feel slighted but it's okay. It gets better.

    Where would you start if you were in my position. I am a few days from being able to buy a Jr VIP membership which I believe will boost me up incredibly.

    I have been doing websites, I want to do one of the guys on here, they have an affiliate program for a month or so. Then sell it off. I read FE flipping guide. Any suggestions would be awesome. Feedback, should I start a journey?

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    Graham
     
  2. antichrist

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    IF you think that going to ungagged or being able to buy Jr vip you will become a super affiliate overnight, you are in for a bad time....
     
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  3. WonderKid

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    mate I am relatively new here..but I agree wholeheartedly with antichrist. You need to have ideas and a good plan to become anywhere near a super affiliate. doesn't happen over night... and it will not be spoonfed to you there either.
     
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  4. SkyrocketSEO

    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Are you sure you have a wife? Cause you sound like 13 years old
     
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    sergey007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Your wife is very strict. If you feel that the conference will help you, you should definitely go there =)
     
  6. BassTrackerBoats

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    I think that you going to a conference like that would propel you into the kind of revenue you need to make to go to it. I think you want to get the spousal unit to see that as a training conference to make that kind of money.

    Those kinds of events have all sorts of opportunities staring you in the face when you go to them and participate.
     
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  7. archon10

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    I LOL'd at wife telling him he could go if he made any money. That's gonna be that other guy who said he was gonna quit and his wife would support him while he became a master IMer. hahaha

    OP, does she keep your balls in her purse, too?
     
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  8. m.rvs2141

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    BTW I want to try staff you smoke
     
  9. kelso

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    Go ahead and open up that journey thread. Sounds to me like you do need that accountability boost to make things work out good for you. Like many of us also do...
     
  10. archon10

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    My journey to getting my wife to let me out of the house....

    I would subscribe.
     
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    nikchaing Jr. VIP Jr. VIP UnGagged Attendee

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    I met some really awesome people at Ungagged. All of them I probably would of never met anywhere else.
    However, it's going to be difficult to make 5k per month if you barely have enough to buy Jr VIP.
    The things you say don't add up OP, but good luck man. Hope to see you in Vegas!
     
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  12. BreaknBrix

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    You're married to a "hot" wife who makes $5k+/month but can't afford $100 for JR VIP? WTF.

    You made this post yesterday claiming you can generate "1500-3000" rental leads / day I just find it extremely weird that you don't have $100 in disposable income right now. I mean how are you monetizing those leads? Are you trading them for cookies?
     
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  13. GrahamCrackers

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    I can't buy Jr VIP. So I'm not sure how that would make it seem like i was anything less. I am not eligible for it. So once I am. I'm definitely getting a membership. I have a great wife. Who loves me unconditionally and she's the breadwinner of the house and that deserves my respect since we have kids.
    Some of the responses you guys say are disheartening but who am I to judge. We all have opinions. I'm not saying I'll be a super affiliate but maybe I'll be an asset to some if not many.
    As far as the leads go, I've always worked for a company to generate their leads. The reason I'm here is because several of us were laid off and I honestly don't know how to sell myself and get what is properly deserved. In fact, one of my weak points is the fact. I'm not great as the front guy.
    Everyone starts here. I'm sure.
    I am really good at lead generation by PPc and generating from the different avenues to getting the leads.
    I think I do need accountability. it's all trial and error. I make chump change but its not consistent.
     
  14. BreaknBrix

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    MY BAD dude. When I read "a few days" my brain got tunnel vision and didn't even bother looking at your membership date. Too much skepticism is not always a good thing.

    You said you're not a good front guy. Of which I can only say 2 things:

    1) That's great you realize and acknowledge that.
    2) It will not hold you back in the slightest and can actually be a major advantage.

    Cause in the end you don't want to be the front guy. You wanna be the head of the snake so to speak. The "front guy" is really the ass of the snake.

    My brother is a great salesman. I'm better on the lead side of things. So I send all my leads to him and he goes out and closes them. We make a giant commission than split it 60/40.

    If I didn't have him, it's very easy to find brokers who can do the same thing. There's been many times he's went on vacation and I've had to find guys off craigslist. Some actually had a better closing rate than him but you can't put a price on loyalty.

    You said you can generate leads which is great. TBO, if you can generate the volume of leads you claimed in another thread.... you should be doing extremely well for yourself right now. I don't sell rental leads but I'm in different home related industries. If I was you I'd work on finding a front man who can help you source buyers. All that matters is performance and results. If you can get results aka leads then YOU are the one with all the power. Regardless of social skills or anything else you can leverage that power to your advantage.

    I'd be curious to know the finer details behind your story. Like you said you were laid off? Are you living in the US? I'd like to know more about the previous company you were working for, the true market value of the leads (not what google says), how they were monetizing them and their overall business model. You obviously need to get these lead in the hands of buyers. But there are various different ways you can execute this. I personally hate selling leads. I always go for a commission based model whenever possible. Cause it always proves to be more profitable. The problem is I'm not working with the volume you are or the industry. I'm dealing with a very small quantity of leads and I know each lead is potentially worth thousands to a buyer. So I can sell the leads for $300 each OR I can give them away for free, have tracking in place, and collect 4-5 figure commissions whenever a contract is signed. With a 30% closing rate it's either 10 leads for $3,000 or 3, 12% kickbacks for anywhere between $5,000-$15,000+. It varies a lot from month to month. These days we have our own company and close most the leads directly but it's still the same basic model.

    For you, it's a different model and I'm not sure it can be applied in your industry. But if you shoot me a long / detailed pm maybe we can exchange some thoughts.

    -BB
     
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  15. rabbitking

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    Super affiliates were not made at conferences, they attend for free because of the revenue they pull in.
    All right so you are good at driving leads eh? Well drive leads to products as a publisher. When you increase your revenue
    to the point of being a super affiliate you won't have to buy conference tickets, they will bring you in.

    I am not speaking for UnGagged, but it would not be the first time Affiliate Summit gave someone free tickets.
     
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    You really should come and meet with all the legends of BHW :)
     
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    Very surprising how many people point and made fun of this guy when he explained his situation and asked for a helping hand.
     
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    welcome to internets
    it's gonna be a bumpy ride
     
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  19. BassTrackerBoats

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    Crackers, take BreaknBrix up on his offer for some chat; I am sure that you'll be glad you did.
     
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  20. koolkake

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    I am trying to work out a deal with OP. If what you say is true about your homeowner/refinance lead generation, you can go to ungagged and buy 10 Jr VIP memberships within a few weeks. Only issue is he wants money upfront (500$), and we can't even sample your leads? Then you say we have to pay via WU or prepaid Visa or whatever and we can't pay via paypal?

    Again, we want to work with you if what you say is true. If it is true, no doubt you will be going to ungagged.