I Need Your Opinion! What Would You Do?

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  1. vuedoolor

    vuedoolor Junior Member

    Jan 15, 2010
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    Okay so I want to make a consistent $2000+/month and the long term goal is to do IM Full time, I am determine to get there and make it work no matter how long it takes and even if it kills me.

    So I have to decide since I my unemployment benefit has ended I have 2 choices that I was thinking about:

    Go to school full time and do IM Part time and be broke and have no money to invest into IM but have an education to fall back on. My ass is covered by financial aid all the way to a bachelor's degree so I don't have to worry about student loans.


    Get a full time JOB just so I can get some money coming in so I can invest that money into IM

    So many pros and cons to both option so I'm not sure which route to take.

    What would you do? What would Jesus do?
  2. xyberk

    xyberk Junior Member

    Nov 29, 2008
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    I would choose the first one - get an education and do IM part time. IM is a fickle beast having a college education as a priority is a wise move.
  3. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

    Apr 4, 2010
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    Full time IM
    Plan B distracts from plan A. ******** school. If you want to get it done no matter what, why do you need a fallback? You don't. The question to ask yourself is if you want to have a common life like 99.9% of the people with a job and all that or you want to be the 0.01% of the people that struggled but made it.

    I did college because my parents wanted me to. A waste of time. Unless you want a regular job school is a waste of time.

    1. Find either of:
      1. Extremely well payed job even if it is demanding
      2. A job that gives you a lot of free time, preferably one where you can go at work and have little to do so you get at least a few hours at work that you can use to work on your own shit.
    2. Set specific goals
    3. Determine what you need to reach your goals
    4. Develop a well laid down plan. Be realistic! If the figures suck then the results will suck so you need to find a better plan or adapt.
    5. Always be learning! This is imperative. No matter how much you work you always have to be learning.
    6. Never listen every word from experts & gurus in IM. They all suck at teaching because what works for them won't work for you in most cases. That's because their mental background is not the same as yours. That $3000 course you found on a torrent will probably not make you 1% the money it makes to the guy who wrote it. Also ALL gurus will omit certain critical details from their teaching and in IM details make or break a plan. You have to learn and discover things yourself otherwise you won't evolve.
    7. Never go with the pack. If 100,000 people use ScrapeBox in X way and 1,000,000 use xrumer Y way, you want to stay away from X and Y techniques. Use you're head, that's why you have it. Find your own unique way to do things and that will take you far. Every single technique and strategy that once worked, stopped working when a bunch of morons started to abuse it. If many people use a technique, you can bet your life on the fact that 99% of them will abuse it and make it useless for the future.
    8. Work. Work until you bleed through your ears and you don't remember what year it is. Work like your life depends on it (it does).
    9. Balance the energy drain from the work with high energy intake. I don't mean to take breaks and have fun. That's bullshit. You don't need to have fun. You really don't. If you WANT to do what you want to do, that is your drive. If you want to go out once a month and have a beer OK, but going out every week when you're set to achieve something is a waste of time. "Having fun" will not give you energy, it will consume it. What I mean with high energy intake is:
      1. If you're tired and you feel you can't concentrate, take a nap.
      2. First thing in the morning drink a glass of water where you squeezed half a lemon. No sugar. Just water+lemon. Do this every time you start to feel week. Do this again at least once during the day. Set an alarm on your clock/cell phone.
      3. After you come from work you will probably be tired and will want a break otherwise you'll be at 10-20% energy level. Take a 30min-2h nap. If you go for 30min drink a coffee right before you lay down. While you sleep the caffeine will kick in so when you're awake it is at full impact in your body. Don't do this if you sleep more than 30min. Then if you still don't feel pumping, have a glass of water+lemon.
      4. Meat. Eat meat! Seriously. If you think it will get you fat just exercise or run or whatever to use your muscles. Of course you have to balance with vegetables and stuff but if you want to keep going like a bull you need serious food.
      5. Eat little but many times during the day. This way you don't feel full and tired. IF you feel full after you just eat, take a nap.
      6. Fruits fruits fruits. Buy a juicer and make juice from fruits if you like to drink. Or just eat them. Pineapple, bananas, coconuts => a shitload of energy. My favorite is 3-4 bananas, milk, cream (liquid) in a blender. Make sure you don't have to go anywhere, you might need to take a shit in like 10-20 minutes after that (it's a healthy think because it cleans your bowels, it is not the nasty irritating type). Make this juice thick but so it still pours. That's like drinking dynamite. You get a shitload of energy. Also eat coconuts. Bad thing about this is that at leas where I am it can be expensive to eat so many fruits every day. Also eat a fruit right before you go to bed. Otherwise your body might start to consume your muscles and you will get up tired.
      7. I'm lazy, I don't exercise. But if you can get yourself to do it => more stamina and energy.
      8. Sunbaths. To put it succinctly, the more sun you get the less you have to sleep and you recover better during sleep (won't wake up tired).
    10. Every single day, when you wake up, when you go to bed and in the middle of the day, take 5-10min close your eyes and visualize what you want. Actually see yourself doing/having what you want. Also visualize yourself how you are getting there. What happens is your subconscious mind will work to make it reality. As a matter of fact, everything you want to do, before you even start working on it, give it at leas a week where you thing about it in a POSITIVE WAY (visualizing yourself figuring it out and getting it done). No matter how hard or difficult it seems to be, always think and visualize yourself doing it in an easy way. Always feed your subconscious positive thoughts. It doesn't differentiate between positive and negative so if you feed it negative thoughts it will make them real eventually and you don't want that.
    11. STAY FOCUSED! Never loose sight of the true reason behind this exhausting work you are (will be) doing.
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  4. cyrsss

    cyrsss Regular Member

    Jul 10, 2010
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    Education is must

    My first preference is education then go for hunting job
  5. DigitalGangster

    DigitalGangster Regular Member

    Jun 24, 2010
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    madoctopus gave you one of the best tips.

    Honestly, i would choose option b.

    Why? because when you work on a minimum job you will realize how badly you want to get out and get a better life and not have a 9 to 5, cause option b will obviously be worst than having a career and a better pay, but that would give you more motivation to continue IM. Like madoctopus said you dont need something to fall back those are excuses, like yoda said "Do, or do not. There is no 'try."

    Plus if once you have your money coming in from your part time job you will have some capital to invest into your projects.
  6. bertbaby

    bertbaby Elite Member

    Apr 15, 2009
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    Simple decision: Education first and IM on a part-time basis. If you have a knack for IM the education can only help. Plus if you don't invest in yourself why should a future employer invest in you?
  7. Ted The All Knowing

    Ted The All Knowing Newbie

    Feb 22, 2009
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    Jobs will ALWAYS be there.

    Getting and education as an option will ALWAYS be there.

    If you do those two first, you get complacent. Going out on your own requires a drive and intestinal fortitude that people who have it don't even need to weigh the above two options. If your gut says go for it, go for it.

    Next thing you know, you'll be married with a bunch of kids and scared silly to ever even thing of working for yourself. Do it while you can.