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I need help please (301 redirect)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by UnDerDoG81, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. UnDerDoG81

    UnDerDoG81 Regular Member

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    Hey guys,

    My question is, what should I do?

    I bought an keyword domain for the exakt keyword that I want to rank for. Unfortunately it is an .biz domain. The plan was to buy this domain and reditrect it with 301 to my older money page that I also want to rank for that same keyword. Unfortunately my actual money site has the keyword in it but also an keyword more.

    For example: I want to rank for car. I now got registered the domain car.biz. My older (~8 months old) domain has the domainname car-dealer.com.

    What is better? To try to rank with the old domain car-dealer.com or with the new domain car.biz and transfer and redirect the old domain to the new?

    Other scenario, this was what I had planed first. To buy the keyword domain, put an 301 redirect to the old domain and spam the new domain. But I´ve got no experience with this. How does google think about an new registered domain that never had any content on it and is redirected to an other page?

    Can I spam the new domain? The new domain must safe my old domain from the sandbox?

    The competition is not that big, wikipedia is on place 3. The keyword has a search term with 30K matches a month.

    Both domains are on different class-c IP adresses.

    Sorry for my english.

    EDIT: Actually my old domain is ranking for "car" (example) already on #24 with only 2-3 backlinks.
     
  2. Abstroose

    Abstroose Elite Member

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    I would keep your old domain. I have a domain with two keywords in it, and I'm ranking for well for one of them.

    I wouldn't spam either domain if you're going to setup a 301 redirect. 301s will pass all the link juice to your new domain.
     
  3. UnDerDoG81

    UnDerDoG81 Regular Member

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    Ok thanks,

    I dont understand your 2nd answer?

    You mean I should redirect the new registered domain to the old but build no backlinks to the new? I thought an 301 redirect will not hurt to the redirected site?



    I also got another question. My first money site ever (2 years old) is ranking good for some keys. Now I also have an domain in the same niche that is 1 year old, got a few backlinks, but ranking not that good. It is on #1 for the targeted keyword but it gets no longtail visitors.

    So I rank on #1 with that domain and rank on #2 for the same keyword with my 2 year old domain.

    Both are on the same class-c IP adress :/

    Can I give up the 1 year old one and redirect it to my 2 year old good ranking site? As I said it is same class-c IP.

    Also can I move all my content from the 1 year old domain to my 2 year old domain? Or is this double content for google? I mean one domain will not exist anymore so it shouldn´t be double content?
     
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  4. UnDerDoG81

    UnDerDoG81 Regular Member

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    Haha this must be a new top secret SEO method or something, nobody will talk about it. I´ve asked this in 3 threads (2 were not mine) now and get no reply.
     
  5. UnDerDoG81

    UnDerDoG81 Regular Member

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    So I tried this, bought an .biz domain. Redirected it to my money page and did ~10 blog comments, linking to the new domain...

    What happened?

    My money page loosed all the positions for the keywords I was ranking for :/ It only ranks for the exact keyword in the domain now. This happened to 3 of my sites now, but I tried the 301 only on 1 domain... I don´t know why this happens always to me...

    My BIG compeitor on #1 has thousands of crap blog comments, also from pages with "clit pump" and "viagra" and is on #1... When I build 10 links I get sandboxed immediately...

    All domains have different Class-C iP adresses... Does google know my "home" iP and bans me with every new homepage? Or what happens here?

    There is also another competitor, ranking for an 27K exact search terms keyword. He has hundereds of links from sexpages... I don´t understand google, really... I do 3 blog comments and bam deindexed...

    I thought that 301 is like an buffer but it seems like it´s not...
     
  6. geezer466

    geezer466 Regular Member

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    Not likely you have been de-indexed. Is the 301 working correctly? Google will of course know your IP and can track the pages you visit particularly if you have their browser tool bar installed.
    Doubt very much though they would penalize you for 10 simple links....

    Change the redirect back wait a couple of days and see what happens.
     
  7. UnDerDoG81

    UnDerDoG81 Regular Member

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    Yup the 301 is working correctly.
     
  8. UnDerDoG81

    UnDerDoG81 Regular Member

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    So still deindexed for the keywords...

    Should I wait another week or remove the 301?

    What else did I do before the 301?

    I created 2 web 2.0 sites, linking to my money page and submitted 1 good written article (wich ranks on #7 for my targeted keyword now lol) linking to money page. Then I blasted articles with AMR linking to these web2.0 props and the article and get ~80 articles accepted. Then I blasted comments to these 80 articles with SB...

    I don´t know wich one get me sandboxed?