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I Make 100k+ a Year via CPA and I Don't Know Why

Discussion in 'CPA' started by SarahJamison, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. SarahJamison

    SarahJamison Newbie

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    (Ok the title was to get your attention, not to brag. )

    I have a website that does very well and sells a lot of its product.

    The website, however, is quite controversial and I cannot reveal to you what it is, or what niche it's in.

    On the back end, I strongly suggest an offer from a major CPA network.

    I do not wish to mention the offer, but it is a free trial offer gives a double digit commission for each lead (that signs up for the free trial) and for each sale. The leads convert into a sale after 60 days.

    I have made over 150,000 from this company over the years, I am sure. Last month alone I made 14k. (They have however recently changed their structure to pay MORE per lead and per sale, in a shorter free trial period). I do not meant o say this to brag, but just to put things into perspective.

    The main company I am promoting (the Publisher is that what is called?) has thanked me and totally seems to love me.

    Here is my dilemma: The main company does not know where the leads come from. I had the site hidden behind redirects and they never asked. I am not cheating the company -- and I would like to tell them -- but I think that due to my sites controversial nature, they would not dig this, and would maybe fire me... so I do not take that risk

    Another thing -- I think the leads I give HAVE to be very bad leads. Here is why: their system pays out so much per lead and per conversion that they COUNT on people sticking onto their continuity program for a long time. But with my product, they (my customers) only need to use the service briefly, and then they likely cancel.

    So, to summarize this entire post:

    • I am giving leads that I assume are not the greatest to a company that pays me a lot of money. How can they not know?
    • Would the CPA company or the publisher know about the bad leads? Because, like I said, the publisher seems to like me a lot, and the CPA company seems to be curious about me, but they don't seem to be on the right track (see below).

    Lastly -- the CPA company recently froze 5 figures that were lingering in my account, and asked me how I am generating traffic. THey have had this long back and forth with me, and I have since blamed it on another site and I am now using the other site as a front via some sneaky PHP stuff I rigged up. Despite all of this, I actually think the cpa company is merely thinking I am generating traffic via a traffic source that is unauthorized.... due to me using some old domains that are titled around unauthorized traffic source as redirect sites. So I am totally NOT doing what they thought, and now I am pretty sure they are letting me free.
     
  2. dgruergerugerhiye

    dgruergerugerhiye BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Fuck the CPA company. Reach out directly to the advertiser and send the leads directly to them. If they're thanking you, there should be no problem with your lead quality.

    CPA companies are entitled as fuck and you should NOT let them know how you're getting the leads.

    Cut them out of the equation completely.
     
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  3. SarahJamison

    SarahJamison Newbie

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    I have thought about that. Do you think the advertiser would allow me to do this?
    Does the advertiser know about the lead quality, or is it the CPA company?

    Also, is that company called the advertiser or publisher? I get these mixed up. Its the company that I am promoting.
     
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    Of course the advetisers know about the lead quality and not the CPA company. I don't get why you think you're sending bad leads as even the advertiser say that you're deliverying quality..

    You're the publisher. And the content you're publishing is from the advertiser.
     
  5. SarahJamison

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    Is there a chance the advertiser cannot TRACK my the quality of my leads or do you think its pretty apparent?
     
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    Pics or it didn't happen
     
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  7. SarahJamison

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    I do not want to show pictures because it will show what network I am using.
    I am sorry to mention numbers -- didn't mean to brag. However, maybe it wasn't necessary.
    But I just wanted to illustrate the amount of leads I am sending this company.. and the large amount of money they are paying me for the leads that I feel are probably less than quality.
     
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    You = Publisher
    Company = Advertiser

    The quality of the leads != the traffic source of the leads.

    If the advertiser is thanking you, they're making money from your leads so the quality of the leads is fine.

    Contact them directly. Say you're pushing them leads and you aren't happy with the CPA company. Ask them if they'd like to work with you directly.
     
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    So, you don't know who's publisher and who's avertizer (THIS is such a basic thing) yet you earn 100K+/year, seems legit
     
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  10. SarahJamison

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    The only reason I am afraid to do that is then I would have to reveal the controversial nature of my website. I doubt they would ever want to work with a website of this topic.

    But is there a chance that even the advertiser wouldn't care?
     
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    Cut out the CPA deal with the advertiser directly. It's a win/win situation for both of you
     
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    That would depend on how controversial your site actually is.. If it's just a fake news lander or something like that, many advertisers would accept it..
     
  13. SarahJamison

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    Ok. Thanks

    SEOSkyrocket, take a hike dude. If you want me to send you pictures as a PM I can, but c'mon. Get a life.

    Yes I dind't know the diff betwen those two. Because I am not a CPA marketer. I just market one offer and I haven't ever known much about any of it. Forgive me.

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    Update: I have actually looked into myemails and I have found many emails from a larger corporation that "oversees" the affiliate programs of many companies, including the advertiser i am promoting.
    *THEY* seem to love me.

    However, I've not heard from the original publisher since 2011.
     
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  14. spure

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    I'm curious, how is the advertiser able to thank you if they can't track where all the leads are coming from?

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
     
  15. SarahJamison

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    I can't PM you because I do not have 15 posts.

    And yes I've not made 100k each year. But the commissions this company is paying me is higher this year. If things continue as they are trending, I will make far over 100k with this. Last year I made about 80 I think.
     
  16. SarahJamison

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    Spure. They just write me an email.
     
  17. dgruergerugerhiye

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    If the advertiser asks you to reveal your site, just say you've had AMs or advertisers rip off your campaigns in the past and you're not comfortable revealing your landers or sources anymore. As long as the leads are legit and not fraudulent, they shouldn't care.
     
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  18. SarahJamison

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    OK Thank you Wargasm.
     
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    This, if the advertiser is happy the CPA network can fuck off. Do some research, get in contact with the actual advertiser and tell them you don't want to give the site out to the CPA network. As long as they are making profit from your leads they shouldn't really care. If you are pushing 100k like you say why not try to recreate the product for yourself?
     
  20. SarahJamison

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    Known: I have thought about recreating the product myself, and I could, but, that is the entire problem I am speaking about in this post: the publisher i think is overpaying me for the leads I am giving them. So if I did it myself, I feel would make LESS than I am now.

    You see, I feel the leads I am giving HAVE to result in the publisher losing money on me.