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I made a mistake and paid for it

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Marvelousmarvin, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Marvelousmarvin

    Marvelousmarvin Newbie

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    I created a niche review site ~1.5 month ago, I had written plenty of clickbank product reviews in this niche, all of which ranked very well for a month or so. Thing is, I was cloaking my affiliate links in a /link/ directory and I forgot to disallow robots to crawl that directory, some of those cloaked links ended up in the serps and as they did, all my posts fell in the serps, some of my categories still rank, but the individual posts are nowhere to be found(they are indexed, just don't rank).

    After finding out how stupid I've been for not disallowing robots crawling my link directory, I did just that, disallowed them in my link directory. The slap occured a few days ago, 4 or 5. Now the question is, is it probable that I'll get back on my feet? I do suspect that the cause of this slap is that google found my cloaked affiliate links(they hate affiliate links, cloaked ones even more) and every single post on this website contained a cloaked affiliate link.

    I have been working very, very, very hard on this website to say the least. I got my first sale the same day I got slapped by google.

    I have searched but found nothing matching my situation, I hope you can understand why I'm so worried, having worked day and night on this website. I would really appreciate some words of experience on this matter, what should I do? should google forgive & forget my sins & re-rank my site after disallowing the /link/ directory in robots.txt?

    I know this is all on me but it still hurts like holy hell :(

    Edit: I have a very, very thought through & careful backlink strategy which was made to leave no footprints and look as legitimate as possible. I have also checked the uniqueness of my posts and gone through some other stuff, all I can think of being the reason is this robots.txt fuckup
     
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  2. ohaider

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    Don't give Google the opportunity to hate you for the next 3 months. Be proactive, make new reviews, continue linkbuilding and hope for the best. At the worst you'll be able to flip a larger review site.
     
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  3. Marvelousmarvin

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    Yeah, I'm not sure whether or not I should just go ahead and get a new domain and drip feed it the posts I have on this one, while disallowing the link cloaking directory in robots.txt before doing anything else.
     
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    If your new posts don't rank pretty quickly I would go ahead any buy a new domain and redirect the old to the new.
     
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  5. Marvelousmarvin

    Marvelousmarvin Newbie

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    Could you define "If your new posts don't rank pretty quickly"? I mean, they are indexed fairly quickly still, but none rank. Do you mean if I don't get my rankings back on track soon I should buy a new domain?
    Also, wouldn't redirecting leave major footprints for google? I think that completely getting rid of the first one would be better.
     
  6. JonnyBorneo

    JonnyBorneo Regular Member

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    Alright time to take a chill pill.

    Google dance can take over a week.

    If you get penalized it's usually -50 (give or take) drop not N/A.
    N/A is a solid proof you are dancing. Still indexed is also a good sign.

    Thumbs up.
     
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  7. Marvelousmarvin

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    Thanks for your words of comfort, I can only hope you're right. I even signed up with google webmasters after worrying too much, hoping that it'd give me some clarification - even while always having believed that remaining within an arms reach of google is the right way to go unless you're exclusively white hat. Are there any other signs that might confirm that I haven't been penalized? anything would be of great comfort.
     
  8. ohaider

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    I wouldn't personally stand by Webmasters data. I track my own sites independently with a better success.

    Ok:

    Penalties:
    http://www.ksl-consulting.co.uk/google_penalty.html

    Remember to relax buddy. I have a page right now dancing on a HEAVY search term (EXACTS >300,000) that has gone from a stable 18, to 4, to NA and everywhere between. It's a lesson you will learn through experience, but don't focus too much on dancing. If it is indexed and you've done a good linkbuilding campaign, give it some time and go onto more content and other campaigns.
     
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    i guess thats life.
     
  10. Poppa Rotzee

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    I don't see movement for about 1-2 weeks, then the dance will last for 1-2 weeks. Anything sooner than that...I don't take serious, and as long as I've been doing what I'm supposed to be doing..I see it as a good sign.
     
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    i can say that you were ranked because of honeymoon period
     
  12. Marvelousmarvin

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    Alright so the problem has escalated, all the links from my affiliate link directory has now been indexed with the anchor tag i use in the posts where I promote them... at first only a few were, and I hoped that they'd disappear after I disallowed googlebot to crawl the link directory, but no, now all my links are indexed and I still don't rank.

    What should I do? What would you do? Any other way to remove these links from the serps and avoid future indexing of links in this directory other than disallowing robot access in robots.txt?
     
  13. Marvelousmarvin

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    To me it just makes sense that I've dropped because of my link cloaking, and because I link to this link cloaking directory in every single post(alot of posts) after having read about people getting penalized for cloaking affiliate links and even just having them. It makes even more sense when google has crawled them this whole time and they are now indexed.

    I know a guy in this thread said it's probably just a dance because I didn't just fall behind a few pages but instead out of sight, but I'm not so sure that's the case because of this.
     
  14. Marvelousmarvin

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    Do we still think it's a dance? Please read the thread and respond if you've been through something similar.
     
  15. florflor

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    Plenty white-hatters cloak. Google doesn't punish for it.
     
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    But if those white hatters had cloaked affiliate links in every single one of their posts?
     
  17. florflor

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    I dunno. Most whitehatters don't link out in every single post. But some do, and most of them don't use raw affiliate links - they cloak.

    I suppose it depends how Google see it. If you have cloaked links in your sidebar then they are showing up on every post. I've done this and Google never showed me anything but love. But then, Google probably can differentiate between the sidebar and putting the links in your article e.g. at the bottom of each one.

    I still don't believe that cloaking gets you punished. It's better than using a raw affiliate link. And if you have plenty of fresh, unique content - I doubt Google cares about cloaked links.
     
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  18. Marvelousmarvin

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    I use a template which consists of 38 words, most posts are 400+ with more than 70% uniqueness - I try my best not to be generic or use the same words and sentences but surprisingly it became very hard in the long run, but 70%+ should be enough shouldn't it? Been more than a week now, this problem keeps me up at night(not sure why I'm all emotional about this but I am) and this thread is for now everything that is helping me relax, I just need my motivation(google traffic) back so that I can resume creating shitloads of content and backlinks without worrying about whether or not it's all for nothing.

    I'm pathetic. Lol
     
  19. Envyliciouz

    Envyliciouz BANNED BANNED

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    I would like also to know how to solve this problem with "Google hates affiliate links"? How to be safe and not get slaped if we have an affiliate website?
     
  20. Marvelousmarvin

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    ~2 weeks later and I'm still in the same situation :( been adding content and keeping at my link building strategy. Thoughts?