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I just QUIT my Day Job after 10 Months of pure FEAR!!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Heiko, Dec 13, 2018.

  1. Heiko

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    Hello everyone,

    You guys might remember a thread which i created in early of this year (https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/really-need-some-advice-on-a-decision.1011373/) - I was at a point in my life where i didn't see anything useful in it anymore. I hated my life the way it was, i had a job that i knew would destroy me. Quick Sidenote to the job:

    It was an Apprenticeship, i started it back in September 2017, from that point on i only got used for 2 things here :

    -Taking calls and pretty much saying the same thing for 7-8 hours a day
    -Cleaning the coffee machine and basically being the bitch for the company.
    -An apprenticeship in Germany is basically to learn a job fully..( i haven't learned anything there..seriously...)



    In my mind i thought it would be getting better at times but then again, there was just this bad vibe in the company, everyone was talking behind each others back and you couldnt really trust anyone. For someone to quit an apprenticeship and go FULL IM is probably a big step. Especially in the german economy where taxes and other bills are very high. This was probably the biggest fear to overcome. The fear of losing it all when i quitting this job..

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    Back when i made this Thread (https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/really-need-some-advice-on-a-decision.1011373/) i was really going through some time. The fact that my relationship was on the rocks (which ended a couple days after the thread was created) didn't really help at all. I started to lose balance in my, waking up and doing something was just not the same anymore, i didnt feel like doing anything and i was just working at my apprenticeship to not get fired.

    When you work your ass off at a company and you get called in to just listen to some "managers" telling me that i am not doing my work correctly just hit me hard. That was 2-3 Weeks ago, i had already written my termination notice (for the 3rd time over the last 10 months), and it was 2 weeks ago, when i was standing at the postal office just thinking about if i should give up this letter or not.

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    I put the letter in the mail and went silent. Today i got my confirmation that the job termination letter has arrived and my apprenticeship will end on the 31.12.2018. I never really though that i could make it this far, and basically stand up for myself and do what i want to do.

    At the end of the day, it was just the fear that kept me from doing what i wanted to do. The fear of not being enough, not trusting myself enough and not believing in myself.


    Giving up the job termination notice might be the worst thing i have ever done in my life, but it also might be the best decision i have ever made in my life.


    TL;DR : Don't let fear control your life. Everything you wanted is on the other side of fear.



     
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  2. Naroha

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    well some great read. Hope you be good.
     
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    This is very brave thing to do!Now you can focus more on the things you enjoy and be free.Good luck in your future endeavours!!!
     
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    Yea basically when u do apprentceship you are a slave in that company. You get minimal wage or i some cases even 0.
     
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    They've started really pushing "apprenticeships" in the UK as well and mostly they are just a big joke on the apprentice.

    The company gets grants which more or less pays the apprentices wages, which are super low, and they just get employed doing menial tasks and don't really learn anything useful.

    My ex was working for a govt funded dept ringing companies and trying to get them to take on apprentices, which everyone there knew was just a big waste of time.

    It's all about govt unemployment figures and cheap labour, not about improving someones life and work prospects.
     
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    So happy that you don't have to do that job anymore!!

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    i always liked you, your a nice person and yes i remember your problam , fucking boss piss me off aswell fuck them eat my shit !

    so m8 what your move for this income you need to survive .

    what your target weekly , scary i no.

    just trying to think what best for you being honest.

    had to happen right near xmas .

    let look at it a poissative move , we need to clone a method that earning to get this going so you got the cash to survive .

    i no you can do this!

    you already on top with earnings as i remember , so crush it !.

    stop worring about taxes just get building a good business and bank , i am sure you can sort taxes out with a cheap accountant .

    i am sure you heard of stelth accounts ( hint hint lol!
     
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    Good job man!

    How old are you and do you live on your own?
     
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  11. Bluearrow

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    Well That's a big step. BTW how much do you earn monthly from your online work right now ?
     
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    All the best mate, doing it takes courage. Do you have a solid plan in place?
     
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    The only thing that scares me about Germany is the tax system

    How do you Germans even manage it is out of this world
     
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    I was in the same situation 6 months ago.
    Great job, great position, nice income... but shit people, no trustworthy; weird management.
    They manage to not pay my commission shitty reason ( i worked as an account executive) even if I reached all my target...
    You definitely make the best decision.
     
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    Thank you, i will be good! This is an opportunity to grow and become the person i want to be!

    It took me 10 months to get to that step and finally stand up for myself and do what i wanna do! Thank you very much!

    Don't get me wrong, i like apprenticeships because for some people it can be an opportunity to learn a job quite well, and once your finished in that job, get a better paycheck and stuff.
    But there is so much shade to that system. Like you already said, some shady companies basically abuse the youth to do the dirty work for minimum wages (for me it was 3-5$ per hour!!!!)
    But i totally agree with you. For the Govt its just about lowering the numbers..


    Good quote, in my head i think i secretely knew that i had to quit this fucking job, but the fear was to big. I think i would've regretted it, if i wouldn't have quit.

    Thank you!

    Thanks redarrow!

    Basically i am pretty sure that i can cover my costs already, and i have saved up a couple of grand! I know right, right around XMAS i quit my job, like i said.. it may be the best gift ever or the worst, no matter what.. i will put in the work to maximize the chances of it being the best gift ever!!

    I already have 2 incomes on the side, which i built up the last 2 years. My goal is to get even bigger and build even more income streams. Now i have the time to do it. Yes i have heard of stealth accounts and heck yes i am going to go that route!
    Currently i am 22, i live in a house with my mother but i have my own flat in that house (so i pay some rent to her), basically i don't plan to move out until i hit the magical 5 digit number per month :)

    Thank you! Yes i already have some income streams, 2 to be exact in which i wanna build up on. My goal eventually is to have so many income streams that i lose track of how many i have. But with time comes knowledge so we'll see where it will take me! :)

    It is a big step indeed, and i think its the right step in the right direction. Time will tell!
    I honestly don't really like to talk about money but i'll give ya a hint. An Apprenticeship gives you about 500-700 $ per month, sometimes i had months where it 2K, sometimes i had 8K per month. It fluctates a lot but it never goes under the apprenticeship money.

    Thanks so much!
    Actually i do have one in my head, i plan on maxing out my income streams with more websites, more great content and more subscribers to my channels. I haven't written everything down yet but the plan is solid in my head.
    I have a lot of stuff written in my notes on what i would think that would be a fun thing to do, especially learning more about Lifecoaching and stuff like that. After all thats what i strive for. Living a happy life, with happy friends, a healthy income and a no toxic shit in my life!


    Yep, i read somewhere that germany has the most complex tax system of the entire world, but guess what. I already ordered Tax books and im gonna study that shit. No point in giving more money out than i should!

    Okay, well i probably didn't have it that bad, lol. I always got paid on time but you are so right with the people. And the worst thing is, when you are always around people that are putting out a bad and terrible vibe, you will soon become part of them and get into a bad vibe on your own. That's what happened to me. I got so depressed, sad, angry for the dumbest things. I probably lost my relationship over that stuff and i take full credit for not pulling the trigger earlier. It's just hard when you are so overwhelmed with fear that you cannot even control it anymore.
    Thank you.


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    Again thanks to everyone that replied and helped me through the years on BHW, i cannot say thank you enough. This forum is truly one of the best things that ever happened to me and without your guys help i wouldn't be where i am today. I am forever grateful for everything and everyone that participates in this forum and contributes to it. You guys are amazing!
     
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    Mate, you just did the best decision you could do. Just keep pushing on IM and even if you don't bank enough to survive, you would get some nice skills there and you can be employed remotely as a freelancer by an IM agency so don't loose hope. Staying there would only crush your (soul)will and you would become a rat in the rat race in no time. There are jobs where your boss can be your mentor and / or your colleagues can be proactive and you can grow tremendously so letting go of that shitty job it's the best thing you could've done for you at the moment. Recess the situation and you will see that when a door closes another one will open so stay positive about future.
     
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    Well said, yeah there are definetely companies out there that will actually help you grow and challenge you to become what you are capable of becoming... The problem with this, is just that i think 90% of the companies just use you and trash you aside (especially in german apprenticeships, on average 40 % of young adults quit their apprenticeship, because they either don't like it or don't like the company). I mean, ive seen a lot red flags in this company while i was working there. Manipulation, Managers that try to talk nice to you but in the end sabotage you and talk shit behind your back and just straight up rude people.

    I've spoken with the higher people there a couple of times and told them that if i am doing an apprenticeship i wanna be treated like a normal human being that actually learns something (like what he is supposed to learn in an apprenticeship), not a god damn wageslave that basically cleans up 4!! fucking coffee machines every day, buys stuff for the other workers there, and does the same job as the workers there BUT GET PAID 60-70% less..

    I should've pulled the trigger earlier, maybe i wouldn't have fallen in such a hole back then, but i am glad that this nightmare is over.
     
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    Yes, very well said and take the bright side of this because no matter what path you will choose you will face challenges in the future (healthy ones are the worst, but that's another story). So, whenever you will feel in the future that you are hopeless, no way out or some toxic thinking come to you in that moment, think about how bad, hard and unsatisfying it was that apprentice period and you will see that you will laugh at this you will say to you: OMG this is nothing, that was bad as f*ck and this situation now is nothing, it just needs a bit of hard working and some time. Myself I am pushing it further and I am thinking, well let me see... it could be way worse than it's now so it's just a challenge that will toughen me up.
    Put in perspective worst case scenario and what you have experienced now and see that it's not that bad. More over you were aware of that situation so you have a high level of awareness and self deference against the bad scenarios and you don't let things just happen to you, you are active, you shape your environment. Just work on shaping it till you will be completely satisfied :)
     
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    First of all, congratulations for taking the next step in your journey. That - as you've discovered - takes some cajones if you haven't got a big pillow to cover a fall. So, props on that.

    There was something in your post that stoke me as kinda weird, so I thought I'd comment on it.

    Working your ass off doesn't necessarily mean that you're doing your job correctly - especially when you're in an apprentice position, which by definition means that you haven't mastered the task procedures. So I'm curious - what part was it that you got complaints about? I guess not the cleaning of the coffee machines, right?
     
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    Way to go, man!
    Good luck with what's coming!
     
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