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I just had 34/35 Facebook accounts banned. Happy New Year to me eh?

Discussion in 'FaceBook' started by RedAholic, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. RedAholic

    RedAholic Registered Member

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    Fuck you zukerberg.PNG

    The facts:
    • I create all accounts on my laptop whilst tethering to my mobile phone 4g (reset every few accoutns for a fresh IP address)
    • I PV all accounts with sim cards bought off Ebay
    • I add profile pic and cover photo
    • I don't add any friends
    • I like 3 random pages
    • I leave them for a few days then add to Massplanner (on my home dynamic IP address, reset every night for a new IP in the morning)
    • I wait until all accounts are about 1 week old before I try and join any groups.
    So I successfully loaded my accounts that I'd created over the last 2 weeks into Massplanner a few days ago and I started to join groups tonight, I set them to join 4 groups each day (which I thought was safe) and then....

    Every. Single*. New. Account. Was. Banned (ID Verified).

    *There was only 1 account from this new batch that wasn't banned, I have no idea why. Some accounts only managed to join 1 group and were banned, the account that wasn't banned had joined 3 - how does that work?!

    Question: What do you think caused this? I personally believe that I joined the groups too fast, I was going for between 10 and 30 minute intervals when joining groups, I think I need to spread this over the day rather than the hour... What's your thoughts? Is Facebook becoming more difficult this year?

    I don't think its the IP address, I have 6 accounts that I created on 01/12/16 and they are all active and members of groups, so they're on the same IP as my accounts that got banned...
     
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    this had been happening to everyone lately...new or ages accounts...i havent figured it out but it could be IP..the fact that some of your accounts remained doesnt mean a thing...they too could be next
     
  3. MrE

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    FB doesn't care if you're just liking/posting to your wall on the same IP with many accts (if actions are slightly spread out), but group joining/group posting on same IP with 5-10+ accts and you'll get BTFO.

    Use proxies once the accts are warm for group joining/posting or you're gonna have a bad time.
     
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    lol .... same here i only hade 1 with all my pages and the bastards killed it.
     
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    You have a dynamic ip, but have you checked for the same ip's reappearing more than once across changes...
    I guess splitting it down further - one account per ip, covering all possible bases - cookies, mac, useragent ect would be my guess.
     
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    what make me laugh why is he hidden names if accounts are banned :) hehehhehehehehe
     
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    But I have 5 accounts that I created at the very start of December that are all live though, they're posting in groups etc, so why aren't they getting banned, do you have any idea? That's what makes me think its not the IP that's the issue... :confused:

    haha yeah, I dunno why I even bothered tbh...
     
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    What a nice start
     
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    That sucks dude, I have a Facebook page I use to promote my CPA offers (indirectly) that's tied to one of my remaining accounts, I'm not going to post anything with that account and hope to avoid it getting chopped lol.
     
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    Lol, what?
     
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    Probably JUST UNDER the line, there is a big difference between 5 accts group joining from an IP & 35. I can tell you it's 100% an IP issue managing too many accts that caused your ID's; any type of "spam actions" like group joining/posting/page commenting FB looks at acct IP where as for actions like likes/posting to your wall they don't care which is why you can warm 35 accts from an IP with no issue.


    //EDIT: @RedAholic Pretty insulted to be honest, I've told you EXACTLY what caused your IDs and you don't want to listen to a senior member with tons of experience. BassTracker uses proxies as does anyone running any type of volume because they're a minor needed expense, you obviously didn't put much time into reading his thread. Any actions interacting with groups the IPs matter, full stop.

    If you want to screw around with resetting IPs and using 3-5 accts at once that will work if you track everything perfectly, but any type of hiccup and your accts will get IDed. You won't make much cash running small scale like that, but if you want to cost yourself dollars to save pennies that's your choice.
     
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    Urgh, well that's a pile of dicks now I need to start messing with proxies and shit :( from the forum it seems that most people have issues with bad proxies etc... plus its another expense.

    I'm sure that in @BassTrackerBoats thread he said didn't use proxies and he was fine, wonder if he could chip in his 2 cents...

    What about this then, if I staggered joining groups with my accounts, for example 5 accounts joined groups at any one time, then resetting the IP do you think that would work?

    As far as the 'spam actions go', I don't actually share direct links to the groups, I share a post from a Facebook page that I have, so the accounts technically are just 'sharing a Facebook post' and not actually sharing a link to anything else, if that makes sense? Do you think that would be seen as less spammy as Facebook?
     
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    if it s matter of id card, it can be sloved but even when i send id card , they ask me to hold it and show up :)
     
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    Yeah I thought about that, but I'm not good with photoshop etc so didn't seem worth the hassle, compared to just ordering new Sims tbh.
     
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    I use proxies for all my accounts - each account has it's own proxy and only one account per proxy.
     
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    Aw shit, well it was one of the big Facebook Group threads that said he didn't use proxies! Can't remember which one right now but I'll try source it.

    Cheers anyway @BassTrackerBoats
     
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    That is not me for sure as I have used proxies on my accounts for ages... not sure who that is though.

    But, @MrE really knows his stuff and his advice is gold... I take advice from him about FB and a myriad of other things.
     
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    Cool no worries mate. Yeah I will do, have literally 0 clue about proxies so i'll do some research! Cheers @MrE !

    It was @Inception_AC that said he doesn't use proxies btw, do you think they've updated their algo or something?
     
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    @THUNDERELVI & @Inception_AC both claim to use no proxies so maybe they can chime in - I've spoken with Elvi and he said he's rolling IPs every few minutes (something which most places on the planet can't do, so probably only a handful of providers would work), basically your batch script that releases your MAC and reconnects also needs to be incredibly quick otherwise you're going to see all sorts of timeout errors on MP actions. The computer won't really be useable for anything other than MassPlanner posting since the connection will be up/down every minute or two and your provider needs to have large dynamic IP pools/let you refresh IP every couple of minutes.

    Any type of hiccup, non-release or failure to grab a fresh IP can result in any accounts performing actions getting linked and IDed because of management IP. I've seen Inception talk about bringing fresh accounts online so he might just be replacing whatever get's hit and going churn & burn, he hasn't posted much about FB Groups in a while and what has been posted is talking about bans/issues.

    Personally some of my oldest workhorses are over 18 months old and have been posting that entire time without even a PVA request, you can churn and burn or go for stability. Max ceiling on an IP cycling type of setup would be 100-200 accts and you're taking a lot of risk, can only work in certain GEOs/ISPs, etc. personally I'm not a believer in the stability of it for group posting but I'd love for Elvi or Inception to prove me wrong and shed some more light on the subject.
     
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    Yeah I seen another guy talking about writing scripts etc, that's way above my ability I feel however... :(

    Tbh I was expecting some bans from doing it my way, just not every account at once haha, that's too unsustainable in the long run. I think I'll need to go down the proxy route then, what provider would you recommend for proxies? Are you able to let me know roughly what cost you're running at per proxy? Are you not worried about buying crappy proxies that have been flagged by FB already etc?

    When I was testing I was making about £1.5 per account, so I'm confident that when I scale I'll be able to cover the monthly overheads anyway.

    Cheers