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I have nothing better to do then to talk to noobs on Skype, Aim, etc.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by soma56, Jan 16, 2011.

  1. soma56

    soma56 Regular Member

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    I've started to notice a pattern this past year and it's come in the form of pm's.

    While I've enjoyed writing several guides and tutorials on various email marketing strategies some users have gone above and beyond the expectation of free guidance by asking for help directly via pm. This isn't too bad. And I can understand if you're frustrated with a specific aspect of something that it might not hurt to simply ask an expert. However, some users push their luck. They request help via AIM, Skype or some other chat medium.

    Myself and other users here don't mind posting advice.

    Periodically, I don't even mind pointing someone in the right direction in response to a pm.

    However, why in fuck would I take time out of my day to add you as a friend in Skype - just so that I can hold the hand of a stranger to answer your newbie questions? Do you think we have nothing better to do? And furthermore, how did you conceive the notion in your mind that we would simply waste our fucking time answering your questions anyways? Do you think if I sent a PM to a money making guru like Donald Trump and said

    "Hey, do you mind if I call you throughout the day to ask you questions about how to make money"

    ...that he would oblige without question to a complete stranger?
     
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  2. Bryan

    Bryan Power Member

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    lol what a pointless thread
     
  3. Divinityfound

    Divinityfound Registered Member

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    He is venting man, everyone needs to vent on a public forum sometimes.

    Also, obviously you never had to do it.

    Though it does get awfully annoying when they spend your entire day taking you away from making money, spending time with family, friends, and other important things...

    How self centered this world is :/ --- if they were paying for lessons I'd be a little more sympathetic and take it more seriously, but so long as they do it like most of us do, study and do the job and get it done!!! But we all started somewhere, but they catch the hint eventually or they settle for their desk job or burger flipping somewhere.
     
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    bakxos Regular Member

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    I tried hard to find the "several guides and tutorials" but i failed .
     
  5. soma56

    soma56 Regular Member

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    Didn't you mean pointless post? LOL!

    And yes, I suppose venting would be the appropriate term.

    Most are not here but throughout other places on the web. So keep trying.

    Nevertheless, I didn't expect such negative responses to my initial post. Oh well...
     
  6. soma56

    soma56 Regular Member

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    Some time ago I spent about an hour on Skype with a stranger. I answered all there questions. I gave them multiple paths to take and new directions. They left feeling ecstatic and with a new motivational edge. Where did it leave me? It took away an hour of my life.

    Yes, we could all sit around in this thread and know that free mentoring is the right thing to do. It feels good to spend all your time helping the little guy. We could all sing Kumbaya together. But singing Kumbaya doesn't make me smarter nor does it make money. That's my point.
     
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    bakxos Regular Member

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    No offense but what exactly did you expect? If you help a bit, you will be asked to help more. Thats plain simple.

    If you dont want to help, go to your control panel and remove the option to receive pms. if you cant contact a mod for that.
     
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    ericsson Elite Member Premium Member

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    Soma: You´re not the only one..

    What i do is "Ok, so who are you?"
    "What do u want from me?"
    "ok" "mm" .. hah.. then i block them
     
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  9. Jonny Quick

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    Maybe because you are hoping that by chance you might run into someone like yourself, someone that will not only appreciate the value of what you are giving them for free, but also appreciate the value of who you are as a complete person. And because of that appreciation, you also might get something back, at some point in the future. It's an investment. And, at some level you know this, otherwise you wouldn't do it at all. What you are wanting at this point is some response back from the infinate ocean of ignoramuses out here that the possiblity of getting some kind of return on your investment really does exist, and that you are not completely wasting your time.

    It does. We few are out here. Finding yours is going to happen, it's just a matter of time. Be patient, and don't run them off when they find you, lol...
     
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  10. uditbhansali

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    When I read the title of of this thread, I was laughing like hell...I was about the pee in my pants. You seem to be so frustrated and agitated by newbies on this forum. Even I was a newbie when I joined this forum. I had 0 capital to start with and I started it by taking the email lists from this forum and selling it on eBay, even now I'm a newbie when it comes to certain topics, but I never did things like this. I posted for help where I was stuck, but the newcomers only want spoon-feeding. Should report them and get them blocked.
     
  11. J1218

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    Why would he disable PMs completely because a few people bother him to give them free help?

    And I disagree with you. If he's nice enough to give them a few tips for free and point them in the right direction to get started, they shouldn't ask him to help even more for free. That's just being inconsiderate of somebody's time who already gave you more of their time than they had to.

    They should use what he gives them and start figuring things out for their own like the rest of us do. I feel that if you aren't resourceful enough to figure most things out for yourself and you need someone to hold your hand through everything, you'll never get anywhere anyway, so why bother.

    On another note, Soma those are perfect opportunities for you to upsell them on consulting. Say you do 1 on 1 consulting with clients and you charge $100 per hour (or whatever you think your time is worth) and ask them if they want to try a session.

    This works out in 2 ways for you. Either you get someone paying you $100 per hour to sit there and talk to them, or they stop bothering you because they know you want money for your time and you're not out to just answer all their questions for free.
     
  12. mergethegreat

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    The world being self centered is absolutely true and this is some of the most self centered $hit that I have ever heard. The bad thing is you probably don't even notice it.


    Actually you never know if Donald Trump would. If you got through to him he may actually talk to you because you have the contact. I make music and I have spoken to top people at music labels because I knew the number to call and the person to ask for. My partner talks to people who make big budget movies all the time and I'm sure they make more money than most people here but yet they aren't so self centered as most of the people here.

    I'm pretty sure you speak to people everyday that you don't know and if they asked you a question would you not answer? I might be on the street and someone asks me what time it is, should I charge them for that? I understand where your coming from when you get an annoying person, but either way can you really say you lost an hour? I'm in the process of designing a website right now while I'm typing this so were you really sitting there idle waiting for every response to come through so that you could answer it as fast as possible? lol funny stuff
     
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  13. soma56

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    Intelligent responses so far and good points....

    but I don't get/understand you... mergethegreat

    perhaps you should stick to coding your website today.
     
  14. mergethegreat

    mergethegreat Junior Member

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    I'm not sure what you didn't understand. Point out what you don't get and I will explain it for you.

    Also thanks for your suggestion but I think I would prefer to do both. No offense :D
     
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    I here your frustration, anyway I have a couple questions, can I skype you later. lol
     
  16. Deviance

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    Just don't reply to the PM's, big deal.
     
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    Screw Skype, can I come over to your house for some one on one coaching....
     
  18. soma56

    soma56 Regular Member

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    Right. You got it.

    Now that's funny :)
     
  19. imhappy

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    I would like to make $10,000 by the end of the month. Can you please tell me how to do that? Oh, and I don't want to work hard. I guess I don't mind talking to you for an hour on Skype, but I would prefer it if you just did all the work. Then you can send me the check.
     
  20. dizz

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    Yea i get about three a day contacting me so i feel your pain.